Session Start: Wed Dec 01 17:09:26 1999 [17:09] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [17:09] *** GM has left #rpg2 [17:09] *** GM has joined #rpg2 [17:09] hiya [17:10] beep [17:10] *** GM has quit IRC (Read error to GM[mr-84-121.tm.net.my]: Connection reset by peer) [17:10] doh [17:10] take the time to read the web page then :) [17:10] *** DM has joined #rpg2 [17:11] I'm ba-ack. [17:11] * Kasin smiles [17:11] everyone want to refresh on what we were doing last? [17:12] esp you Hannes, with the private channel section [17:13] Sounds good. [17:13] * Kasin plays with her new toy [17:13] I believe that you guys where in an arena - everyone but Kasin was on the floor. [17:14] hmm givew me a minute to check my logs [17:14] yep [17:14] read the web page if you like [17:14] Kasin was talking with the big boss giant when he got mad and seemingly ordered his guys to attack. [17:14] he did? [17:14] no he didn't [17:14] not according to my logs anyway [17:14] You mean that bit didn't get through? [17:15] no, did you read the bit that kasin said? [17:15] ie: read the private channel log? [17:15] if you had you would know that it hadn't got through [17:15] No. Browsing from here is slow... and I haven't been going to the office. [17:15] *sigh* [17:16] OK, give me the URL (which is also at the office). [17:16] OK, don't bother... [17:16] http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~knight/campaign/kasin/ [17:17] http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~knight/campaign/kasin/irc6p.html [17:19] OK, the situation is as described but Kasin is still talking with the giant. [17:19] BG: Shouts something loudly in another language. [17:20] * Kasin keeps talking [17:20] (ie: tries to finish what she was going to say) [17:21] kasin was discussing the retrieval of the sword BG was after [17:21] as none of us could speak altan [17:21] Yes. [17:22] Now that you are back on-line.... shall we continue? [17:22] pasting.... [17:22] GM: Beorn: Some of our spells aren't working here. All the stones seem immune to our spells, and the traps are beyond our detection - even with True Seeing. [17:22] alamark: Hmm - this is nno ordinary giant, that;s for sure [17:22] alamark: Lowers voice - perhaps it is an avatar.... [17:22] * Kasin waits, weapons sheathed, calmly [17:22] then your connection died [17:23] OK, my link died before you suggested it was an avatar. I don't recall seeing that bit. [17:23] *** DM changes topic to 'In the arena.' [17:24] * Kasin configures vlans while she waits [17:24] show port 3 [17:24] OK.... back to the action. [17:24] ooc: oops! [17:24] (ie: tries to finish what she was going to say) [17:24] As Kasin talks giants start coming into the stands of the arena, boulders readied. [17:25] kasin! [17:25] Enough of this! [17:25] The giants yell, filling the arena with the sound. [17:26] The giants raise their boulders, preparing to throw. [17:26] Tril: Oh shit! [17:27] Actions? (In private windows.) [17:31] OK ... ready.... [17:32] Alamark's skimmer turns smoothly and starts to rush towards an opening in one of the walls of the arena. [17:32] Kasin shouts "Teleport!" [17:33] Lorandell pulls a javelin off his back and hurls it towards some giants. It turns into a lightning bolt as it flies. [17:33] Most of the others scatter. [17:34] Kasin and Shotan move down towards the arena floor, on an intercept course with Alamark. [17:34] The giants release their boulders .... [17:35] oh great [17:35] ... Kasin swoops down, Alamark zooms forwards ... [17:35] ... and your surroundings blur. [17:35] *** DM changes topic to 'In Letnor.' [17:35] whew! [17:35] everyone there? [17:35] You are in the palace at Letnor, in the usual empty room. [17:35] hmmm [17:36] just what did you say to him Kasin? [17:36] just the truth [17:36] not a truth he wanted to hear [17:36] is everyone with us? [17:37] Well, apart from those who were in the arena... [17:37] errr, who do you mean? [17:37] ... there is also a badly-mangled Estherielle (obviously dead) and a red smear. [17:37] sigh [17:37] * alamark sighs [17:37] godsdammit Kasin! [17:38] What did you say?! [17:38] The two elves rush to Estherielle's body. [17:38] Tril: What the fuck? [17:39] Sir Orwell sinks to his knees, praying. [17:39] (cooly) that had nothing to do with what I said Alamark [17:39] i know, but one minute your discussing the sword he wants, then you start attacking each other [17:40] i told him that he couldn't get the sword, and that, basically, his deal was unacceptable [17:40] note that I did not draw my sword at any time [17:40] Velorean bends over what's left of Estherielle's body. [17:41] Viv: Yeah. [17:41] he threatened us, I threatened back. He wasn't prepared to bargain. [17:41] i know [17:41] but [17:41] * Kasin looks sadly at the red smear [17:42] *** sha has joined #rpg2 [17:42] *** sha has quit IRC (Sh…°LíÒ99 - http://www.pacifier.com/~shasta) [17:42] Tril (looking down at the red smear) I wonder if that's Igrenamur or Sherra? [17:42] or both? [17:42] oth I suspect, unless Sherra was in a position where she was unable to be teleported out of [17:43] Tril: Both were squashed under different rocks. I think Irgenamur blew up under his. The rock moved slightly, even. [17:44] piece of cake hey? [17:44] * alamark looks angry [17:44] Sir Orwell rises. [17:44] SO: Thank you for getting us out of that place! Whoever did it! [17:44] Viv: Welcome, sir knight. [17:44] Sir Orwell boggles for a moment, then bows gravely. [17:45] * Kasin smiles slightly [17:45] The elves are still ignoring everything other than Estherielle's corpse. [17:46] It's ok, she can be resurrected [17:46] Beorn: You did well, Viv. But when do we go back? [17:46] tomorrow? [17:46] Sir Orwell pales noticeably. [17:46] * Kasin sits down with a surpressed groan [17:46] Tril: Going back there? Are you mad? [17:46] * Kasin shrugs [17:46] OK!! [17:46] Beorn (to Tril) Yes, probably. [17:47] possibly [17:47] Bruin (mutters) Definitely. [17:47] Well, some of us "mere mortals" treat life and death with the reverence it deserves! (Or at least try to). [17:47] * alamark kneels next to elves [17:47] I'm sorry [17:47] it's only temporary. She isn't _really_ dead yet [17:47] We'll do what we can [17:48] Lorandell: (to Alamark) I know you will. These things must happen, but it is a shock seeing her so changed. [17:48] * Kasin nods gravely [17:49] The elves rise slowly, in perfect synchrony. [17:49] Vel: We need a better plan. [17:49] Tril: We need to stick to the bloody plan, that's what we need! (glares at Alamark) [17:50] yes, we do [17:50] Beorn raises a huge, bushy eyebrow. [17:50] I would have preferred to go in with better information, but we had little choice [17:50] ooc: a prefect bushy one though ? :) [17:50] OOC Yep. [17:51] * Kasin shrugs [17:51] Tril: Stuff that. But I thought we were supposed to lure them out! What was all those explosions in aid of (still glares at Alamark). [17:51] personally, i can sympathise somewhat with the giants [17:52] before you all jump me - here me out [17:52] most of those explosions were not from me [17:52] Beorn's other (perfect) huge, hairy eyebrow joins the first at lofty altitudes. [17:52] most of those explosions were not from me_not_ Alta. They asked someone for help, and got they got it. [17:53] what has Alta got to do with it? [17:53] Now that's no ordinary giant, but they are somewhat correct in their plans to attack Alta [17:53] We all know alta will not stop once it has it's sights set on something [17:53] ooc: I don't understand the 2nd last sentance [17:53] ooc: 3rd last [17:53] Isn';t this part of this alliance is all about? [17:54] * Kasin sighs [17:55] We're banding together before Alta thinks of us as lunch [17:55] We're taking a preventative measure [17:55] Beorn: Hey - talking about lu (is cut off by a stern look from Bruin) [17:55] Well, i guess the giants are too - but in a different way [17:55] Can you blame them for trying to survive? [17:55] Maybe for being evil yes, but they would have to fight the Altans whether they were evil or not simply because of their close proximity to Alta [17:56] We have the same problem with Valdan, don;t we? [17:56] Sir Orwell: But the common people of Alta? [17:56] OOC: Do you mean Voldon? [17:56] that giant _was_ quite evil. I'm sure they would have deliberately killed innocents in order to make it more difficult for the settlers. [17:57] Sir Orwell: I don't put the same tactic past Alta, princess Kasin. [17:58] no, neither would I [17:58] sp? [17:58] I'm sure some of the higher ups in Alta are evil. [17:58] I'm equally sure that not all of them are [17:58] Exactly! [17:58] ooc: valdan ~= voldon [17:59] The point is - to use your terminology - why not let evil destroy itself? [17:59] ooc: voldon yep [17:59] becuase the people being destroyed aren't evil [17:59] Vel: Because those who aren't evil will suffer. [17:59] Sir Orwell: But can we beat those things? They are very powerful. [18:00] yes, we can, but It's not easy [18:00] probably the best tactic is to get the sword ourselves [18:00] since I believe that is what the Altans are probably going there for as well [18:01] Beorn: Perhaps we should send for Renik and Mitsumi? We're all out of healing. [18:01] I'm virtually out of healing as well [18:01] Tril: Then why not just agree with the giant? [18:01] Because I didn't agree [18:01] besides, I'm sure the giant would have wanted hostages or soemthing [18:02] Perhaps we should have some divinations done to find out what the hell this sword can do? [18:02] Tril: Hmm ... yeah. [18:02] the altans are several days away I believe? [18:02] that gives us a few options [18:03] one of which is warning them against going further, although they probably won't believe us [18:03] *** Disconnected Session Close: Wed Dec 01 18:03:19 1999 Session Start: Wed Dec 01 18:03:45 1999 [18:03] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [18:03] *** Topic is 'In Letnor.' [18:03] *** Set by DM on Wed Dec 01 17:35:31 [18:03] sorry [18:04] last things I said were about the altans being a few days away, that we could warn them, but they prob won't believe us [18:05] anyone getting this? nothing heard [18:05] Hang on... [18:05] pasting.... [18:05] Kasin: yes, we can, but It's not easy [18:05] Kasin: probably the best tactic is to get the sword ourselves [18:05] Kasin: since I believe that is what the Altans are probably going there for as well [18:05] DM: Beorn: Perhaps we should send for Renik and Mitsumi? We're all out of healing. [18:05] Kasin: I'm virtually out of healing as well [18:05] alamark: Perhaps we should have some divinations done to find out what the hell this sword can do? [18:05] DM: Tril: Then why not just agree with the giant? [18:05] Kasin: Because I didn't agree [18:05] Kasin: besides, I'm sure the giant would have wanted hostages or soemthing [18:05] DM: Tril: Hmm ... yeah. [18:07] the altans are walking into something which, apparently, is too tough for them - I can see why [18:08] Sir Orwell nods soberly. [18:09] how about too tough for us?! [18:09] tomorrow, we should seek them out and warn them against continuing [18:09] that will warn alta against the giants as well, assuming they do turn around [18:11] I think now is a good time for us to rest, heal, and think a bit before we talk again [18:11] Sir Orwell: A splendid idea. [18:11] agreed [18:11] Beorn: Lunch-time? [18:11] * alamark mutters 'for once..." [18:12] let us go back to the castle, and rest. [18:12] ooc: and make sure no-one cleans up the mess [18:12] OK ... you all go back to the castle. [18:13] *** DM changes topic to 'In the castle. Lunch.' [18:13] ooc: and find the healers! [18:13] ooc: Kasin is on 3 hp [18:13] Renik will Heal Kasin. [18:13] ooc: ok [18:15] Allandrak, Mitsumi, and Renik will be at lunch, as will Girak. [18:15] Daegar will not be present. [18:16] ooc: I assume we get a chance to clean up first [18:17] OOC: Sure. Cantrip anyone? [18:17] ooc: ok, lunch. we resume the discussion [18:17] lemme check [18:18] no cantrips [18:19] orision then [18:20] Lots of orisons. Anyway ... the discussion? [18:20] Sir Orwell: So you plan to get this sword? [18:21] yes. I think it the best way of preventing bloodshed, aside from eliminating the giants altogether. Which is a quite bloody affair. [18:21] i think we should find out what it does first [18:21] * Kasin nods [18:21] I agree. Some diviantions would be a good idea [18:21] Mitsumi: I'll do my best. In the evening. [18:21] Should we warn the Altan group? I say yes. [18:21] i suppose so [18:21] * alamark sighs [18:21] Vel: We must, although it will mean admitting our attack. [18:22] we've already made ourselves known to the giants so i guess they're enemies now [18:22] yes it will [18:24] ooc: what was done with the smear? [18:24] no objections? [18:24] Beorn: Heck, no. We need to warn the poor buggers. [18:25] Beorn appears to be concentrating hard as he speaks. [18:25] * Kasin nods [18:26] Vel: I don't mean to rush you, but when can something be done about Estherielle? [18:26] ooc: I believe that Luinja is still resting? [18:26] ooc: and that flame is still dead? [18:27] ooc: yep flame is dead [18:27] ooc: don't know abou8t luinja, but that sounds about right [18:27] OOC Yep. And so is the female wearbear. [18:28] OOC Zortash is also still resting. [18:28] we have still two dead people as well to resurrect [18:28] * alamark looks upset [18:29] Vel: I understand. [18:29] Mitsumi (to Alamark) Are you OK? [18:29] we will have to think about whatb to do about the others [18:30] yes [18:30] * alamark mutters "I just lost her dammit..." [18:30] Various people eye Alamark strangely. [18:30] Vel: Alamark, what happened to that woman who was with you? [18:30] * alamark looks up [18:30] * Kasin looks like she understands soemthing [18:30] My illusion [18:31] VeL (looking surprised) Ah... [18:31] Where did she go? [18:35] A guard comes rushing in. [18:35] * Kasin looks up in alarm [18:35] She was killed by some boulders after we left [18:35] Guard: (to Kasin) Princess, there has been a fight in Temple Square. I was told to find you. [18:36] oh no [18:36] lets go [18:36] * Kasin will get on shoatn as quickly as possible and head there [18:36] The guard takes a few deep breaths, then nods. [18:36] who told you? [18:37] Guard: My captain, princess. [18:37] The others rise, obviously ready to come along. [18:37] Beorn: Let's go! [18:37] ok, lets go there together [18:37] You all head to Temple Square.... [18:38] ok [18:38] i follow [18:38] *** DM changes topic to 'In Temple Square.' [18:38] be careful everyone, it could be a distraction or an ambush [18:38] whats is there? [18:38] You see a section of the square cordoned off by guards. In the center of it, amidst a burnt patch of paving, is one of the Guardians. [18:39] Guard Captain: Princess, the Crystal Knight attacked a peasant, who appears to have been a spell-caster in disguise. [18:39] * Kasin nods [18:40] where is the spell caster? [18:40] GC: He appears to have vanished, Princess. [18:40] * Kasin nods [18:40] did anyone get a good look at them? [18:40] A crowd on onlookers fo just that - look on. [18:40] ??? [18:40] do just that [18:40] say again? [18:41] he meant do just that [18:41] GC: I've been collecting descriptions. He looked just like a normal peasant, Princess. Letnorian, obviously. [18:41] OOC Yep. [18:41] ooc: is the guardian damaged? [18:42] OOC: Not as far as you can see. [18:42] how long did the battle go for? [18:43] GC: It was over very quickly, princess. Less than a minute, from what I can judge. [18:43] What was the person tryoing to do such that the guardian attacked him? [18:44] GC: (looks at Alamark, then at Kasin, questioningly) [18:44] * Kasin nods [18:44] GC: We don't know. It seemed the peasant came close and then the guardian attacked it. We don't have many reliable witnesses, I'm afraid. [18:44] * Kasin nods [18:45] well done is obtaining this information [18:45] GC (bows) Thank you, Princess. [18:45] hmmm [18:45] see if you can find anyone who saw them enter the square, or who may have information about anything else they did [18:45] * alamark looks contemplative [18:46] You hear the sound of hooves in the distance. [18:46] GC: My men are working on it now, Princess. [18:46] * Kasin recognise the sound? :) :) :) [18:46] OOC: No. :P [18:47] * alamark turns towards the sound [18:47] A courier rides into the square, looking exhausted. [18:47] if he doesn't see us, Kasin will call out [18:47] The courier dismounts, and kneels before Renik. [18:47] Courier: Prince Renik, I have a message for you. [18:47] ooc: heh. military talk to Kasin, court talk to Renik [18:48] Courier: A group of Voldonese have crossed the border and wish to parlay. [18:48] * Kasin raises a (fairly perfect) eyebrow [18:48] A surprised gasp rises around you. [18:48] Renik: Tell me more, but inside. [18:49] The courier nods, and rises painfully to his feet. [18:49] Renik (to Kasin) I'll be back when I've got all the news. [18:49] * Kasin mutters quietly /me nods [18:49] * alamark groans [18:49] Renik and the courier leave, the latter bowing deeply to Kasin first. [18:50] i should check on Maret [18:50] * Kasin mutters quietly "thats a surprise. The voldonese wanting to parley" [18:50] * Kasin nods [18:50] be safe Alamark [18:50] Mitsumi: Surprise isn't the word. It must be some sort of trick. [18:50] * Kasin nods [18:51] (to other MAA ppl): life is always interesting in Letnor [18:51] Various people nod. [18:52] * Kasin waits [18:52] ooc: is the guardian out of it's normal position? [18:53] OOC: No, it isn't. [18:53] * Kasin wanders over to it [18:53] The guardian salutes Kasin. [18:54] * Kasin inclines head in response [18:54] * alamark whispers to Mitsumi "I had Orbit check on your second and things seem OK." [18:54] Mitsumi nods gratefully. [18:56] * Kasin walks back [18:56] The guardian salutes again. [18:57] that was interesting. I'll say more when we are in private [18:58] Renik returns, the courier doesn't. [18:58] Renik: Interesting. (to Kasin) Finished here? [18:58] * Kasin nods [18:58] lets go somewhere we can talk [18:58] Renik: Let's go back to the castle then. [18:58] to GC: We will be at the castle. Inform me if you find anything. [18:59] GC salutes cripsly. Yes, princess! [18:59] You all go back to the castle... [18:59] *** DM changes topic to 'In the castle again...' [18:59] to R: you first [19:00] Renik: The Voldonese must have spies or something. They know about us sending an army north. [19:00] Renik: They think we're going to attack Kaldanir, and want to help us. [19:00] to Elan? It wasn't that secret [19:00] the idea was to be seen after all [19:00] hmmm, that interesting [19:01] Renik: They say that since they haven't had any luck fighting us, they want to try fighting along-side of us. [19:01] * Kasin chuckles [19:01] can't beat em, join em? [19:01] Renik: I admit it, it makes sense. A strange sense, but... [19:01] Renik shrugs. [19:02] It could be to get us to leave Letnor unguarded. Our forces would be well out of position for frfending Letnbor, while theirs would be equally placed for offense into Kaldanir or any of the SS for that matter [19:02] * Kasin smiles [19:02] but then again, I'm paranoid [19:02] Beorn nods. [19:03] Renik: You have every right to be wary of them. Still, I'd like to see what they have to say. [19:03] so would I [19:04] what? [19:04] what do you think? (to others) [19:04] Or it could be to appease their goddess [19:04] Swallowing their pride in order to regain her favour [19:05] * Kasin nods [19:05] Mitsumi: Their goddess would want them to make war on someone ... the target probably wouldn't matter. [19:05] a definite possibility [19:05] exactly [19:05] * alamark furrows his brow for a moment... [19:05] they are aware of the strategic benefits of joining us in an attack, but may not actually intend us harm [19:06] Mitsumi: I don't expect they'd try anything as simple as a straight-forward double-cross. [19:06] Mitsumi: They may just want to gauge our strength better. See us in action... [19:07] certainly [19:07] this calls for another conference [19:07] Renik: So what did you find out about the attack on the peasant? [19:07] (to other MAA mebers) while I will not hold your countries to this, what is your opinion? [19:08] Sir Orwell: Although you must hear them out, don't trust them. They have proved their treacherous nature often enough. [19:08] On Voldon - proceed, but with caution [19:08] Tril: Yeah! Well said. [19:08] Vel: Indeed. They should be given a chance, but watched. [19:08] * Kasin nods [19:09] Krell: Voldon will need to be taken. [19:09] Various people turn to look at Krell. [19:09] A limited action with them could build some trust - espeically if we make an effort to appear very powerful - but we are not planning any largescale military action at all [19:09] * Kasin nods [19:09] Krell: (explains) Voldon wants constant war, while we are aiming for peace. Allying with Voldon is not a good long-term option. [19:09] I agree, in the long term [19:10] in this siuation, we can quite truthfully respond that we are not planning to attack Kaldanir anwyay [19:10] * Kasin wants a cure light on his/her aching neck [19:11] Renik: I have arranged an escort to bring them in. That will take most of a week, so we have some time. [19:11] * Kasin nods [19:13] about the spellcaster, [19:13] the guardian said that it was a direct emmisary of the gods of evil [19:13] I am unsure if it meant _direct_ emmisary, or a priest [19:13] I assume the former, but will have to clarify [19:14] Renik: Good idea... [19:14] did it say this to you, or the captain? [19:14] to me [19:15] if it was a direct emmisary, it would be, and probably is, that poisonous immortal we forught recently [19:15] Renik nods glumly. [19:15] in any case, it is unlikely to be related to our recent jaunt northwards [19:15] Renik: But walking through Temple Square? What gall? [19:16] yes [19:16] * Kasin shakes her head [19:17] one thing, they obvisously didn't know about the guardian, unless it was a deliberate attempt to discover it's powers [19:17] we need to get better description of the battle, in order to determine what spells were thrown exactly [19:17] Renik: The first case would seem unlikely, unless they are amzingly inept. [19:18] our enemies are, as a rule, not. [19:18] well, in general anwyay [19:18] Renik: My point exactly. And if we're dealing with something powerful... [19:19] that is what I am concerned about. the next attack may be an attempt to overwhelm the guardians [19:19] ooc: how are the others reacting to this BTW? [19:19] OOC: Listening intently. [19:21] "unless anyone has anything further to say, I will go to the guardian and confirm" [19:21] General shaking of heads. [19:22] ooc: ok, she does so [19:22] Kasin leaves... [19:25] ok\ [19:25] ooc: this might be a good time for me to go and get dinner [19:26] Maybe not just yet. [19:26] You and Glenn might want to have a chat over dinner, and a short break wouldn't hurt me. [19:26] ok [19:35] hello? [19:35] Almost done [19:39] dinner time [19:39] How long will you guys be? I'll grab something to. [19:39] umm, we will get drivethrough at HJ's down the road [19:40] OK, I'll be back in 10 minutes. [19:40] sounds good [19:40] prob more like 15 mins for us [19:40] OK [19:40] cya soon (i'll leave channel open) [19:41] ooc: the teleport to the giants place v- would that have been cast by me? [19:41] yes it was [19:42] wave [19:42] brbr [20:00] back [20:00] ditto [20:01] Back too [20:02] cool [20:02] * Kasin wanders back with alamark, looking concerned [20:02] So, Kasin relates information? [20:02] yep [20:02] Information related ... all of it? [20:03] yep [20:03] even to the other maa ppl [20:03] Renik: Well, this might explain the timing of the Voldonese. Their Goddess might have ordered them to ally with us. [20:03] yes [20:05] Beorn: It's always nice to get a bit of friendship going. Even if the reason is not a happy one. [20:05] Vel: This is serious news. My people must know at once. [20:06] * Kasin nods [20:06] Krell (nodding) Mine too. [20:06] this changes our priorities [20:06] although I would still like to ensure that sword can't fall into the wrong hands [20:07] Sir Orwell: A powerful sword may be a boon in times such as these. (strokes the hilt of his sword) [20:07] * Kasin smiles [20:07] I'll say! [20:07] Viv: So do I! [20:07] don't you mean a skilled wielder? [20:07] * Kasin smiles [20:07] * alamark rolls his eyes [20:08] ok, we should still inform the altans now [20:08] Vel: Definitely. Do we inform them of this latest event as well? [20:08] A young guard enters and bows deeply. [20:08] hmm, no [20:08] * Kasin looks at the guard [20:09] Guard: Lord Spinner wishes an audience, Princess. [20:09] ahhh, show him in please [20:09] (he has permission) [20:09] The guard returns to the door and holds it open for Spinner (in elven form, obviously). [20:10] The guard leaves. [20:10] welcome Spinner, good to see you [20:10] ooc: i was wondering.... [20:10] Spinner: Greetings all. (solemnly) [20:10] This is (blah, blah and blah) [20:10] ...from the countries of (blah, blah and blah) [20:10] Spinner: I bring a message from the mother of my race. It may be best if I relate it in private. [20:11] Spinner: No offense intended... [20:11] * Kasin nods [20:11] Various people sigh and nod.. [20:11] who is the message for? [20:11] Renik: Why? We are all allies here and will most likely share the information anyway? [20:11] if it's about the attempt on the plane, they know [20:11] agreed [20:11] Spinner: Your group. [20:13] very well. (to others) a servant will show to another room so you may refresh yourself [20:13] * Kasin fetches a servant [20:13] ooc: whoops [20:14] ooc: no magical servants [20:14] The others leave. The dwarves looks unhappy. Well, dour, anyway. [20:14] ooc: change that to (name_of_servant) wil show you [20:14] OOC: OK [20:14] The others have left... [20:14] Spinner seats himself. [20:15] Spinner: The mother of all offers the aid of her children on this world in this matter,... [20:15] * Kasin waits [20:15] ditto [20:15] ... although there is a price. [20:16] you mean all of her children don't you [20:16] Spinner: Not all, but a large number. A very large number. [20:16] I mean all types of her children. Even the nasty ones. [20:17] Sp: Yes. [20:17] what is the price? [20:17] Beorn: Good. I'd rather the nasty ones die helping us than have the nice ones do so. [20:18] Spinner: There is a being named as the Ebon Flame. The mother of all asks that you turn your attention to it as soon as seems feasible. [20:18] hmm, one not so minor problem. [20:18] Spinner: But definitely after this .. matter .. is dealt with. [20:19] Spinner looks unhappy. [20:19] well, assuming we survive this matter, we can probably do something [20:19] Renik: No. [20:19] you don't like this. why? [20:20] ooc: that was to Spinner) [20:20] Spinner (glances at Renik, then answers Kasin): I don't like asking for payment. I'd prefer to help you myself, as a friend. [20:20] oh [20:21] Why is Maelkard so concerned with the Ebon Flame? Is she/he/it a renegade of sorts? [20:21] Spinner: I believe that this being has insulted her in the past. I am not sure, however. [20:21] that deal sounds better than I was expecting [20:21] (to Renik) what don't you like about it [20:22] Renik: It's in Maelkard's interest to help us. Frankly, her dragons won't work together for long and they can't do many things we can. [20:22] Renik: We should be setting her a price, to help her. [20:23] Renik looks at Spinner. [20:23] this incident will affect all creatures [20:23] What of the more ununsual members of your species - like Orbit and Flame.? Does this apply to them? [20:23] Renik: Yes, that is why we wouldn't ask a price. [20:23] Spinner: You'd best ask them. [20:24] I man - she didn't want to destroy them, at least initially [20:24] mean [20:25] Maelkard will presumably work against this anyway. Is the reason she is doing this because she wants to get soemthing for nothing, or is there another reason? [20:25] Spinner: What do you mean? [20:26] why is she offering what sounds like command over her creatures? [20:28] Spinner: I believe that she feels that we will be more sucessful working together. And she wishes to minimise the losses amongst my people. [20:28] * Kasin nods [20:29] perhaps that is what we should be discussing then? co-operation? [20:29] If the Ebon Flame is the being that Lyca warned me about, I cannot join in any attack [20:29] for such an important reason, I am willing to co-operate with the evil ones as well [20:29] Spinner: She offers full co-operation, at a price. [20:30] we counteroffer with a price as well [20:30] Spinner (starting to smile slightly) Yes? [20:30] alamark, we are not intending to attack the ebon flame _now_. Even I don't want to do that. [20:30] * Kasin shrugs [20:30] No, I mean ever [20:30] I don't know, someone think of something [20:30] If it is indeed the same being Lyca warned me of. [20:31] The offer was that we turn our attention to the Ebon Flame. Depending on the nature of the deal, that may still involve us doing nothing, as we may still be incapable of doing so [20:31] I will wait and see on that however [20:32] Renik: How about complete information on the Ebon Flame? If she gets us that, then we might just have a chance - or be able to find someone who does? [20:32] Renik: And if she can't then it's too tough for us, anyway. [20:33] Spinner looks at Kasin. [20:33] that soudns good [20:34] Spinner: Very well, I can agree to that. [20:34] Renik looks faintly surprised. [20:34] Renik: It's good to see someone's willing to bargain. [20:35] yes [20:35] I want to know what she wants of us before accepting (or rejecting) [20:35] well, it _is_ information that will assist in doing what Maelkard wnats us to do anyway [20:35] exact;ly [20:36] Spinner: She wants you to do your best to defeat the Ebon Flame, once this is all over, and in your own time. [20:36] but i presume she's not offering control, of draginkind to us in return for _parlaying_ with the EF? [20:36] I will agree to making a concerted effort. Doing my best is not something I will agree to lightly. [20:36] Spinner: Know. You must attempt it's destruction, or satisfy yourselves that it is beyond your abilities. [20:36] OOC No, not know. [20:37] When you've found out who's your ultimate enemy and defeat them, then you'll find out who's your ultimate enemy. [20:37] Do not attack them as you and those with you will be defeated [20:37] That's almost a direct quote [20:37] and what degree of co-operation can we expect? [20:37] and... [20:37] I assume that does not apply for all time [20:37] "When you face the many, take care,, because there are more and less then they seem" [20:37] (in erference to alarmk's quote) [20:38] Spinner: When you want a target destroyed, you will have an army of dragons willing to assist in that. [20:38] * Kasin nod [20:38] No, but we then ;learnt of any incrediblky powerful being far to the west [20:38] Someone who should have us shiveroing in our shoes [20:39] Presumbly they and the EF are the one and the same [20:39] this applies to other targets as well, not just the ones to do with this incident? [20:39] yes of course [20:39] Don't know [20:39] I agree that we shouldn't attack _now_, I just don't agree that we should never consider attacking in the future. It may become feasible. It may not. We will have to wait and see. [20:39] Spinner: No, this offer applies only to targets relating to this incident. [20:40] * Kasin nods [20:40] Spinner: Frankly, knowing my people you're best off trying to organise a big battle or series of battles. They'll fight amongst themselves as soon as they'll fight the enemy. [20:41] thats what I thought [20:41] not so different from humans [20:41] Spinner: We can offer information on a target though. We believe that a gate has been opened in the mountains near Santonia. In a big castle. [20:41] unfortunately this will prove very difficult [20:42] hmm, It couldn't be could it? [20:42] Spinner: We've watched that place carefully for a long time, because it is so well protected. [20:42] that would mean that we went through a gate to the really big bad guys plane, which seems unlikely [20:43] Spinner: There are many castles in those mountains. Although most are in ruins. [20:44] does this perhaps have anything to do with the Santonian Knights of Shadow? [20:44] ooc: I've forgotten which castle that was. we don't know anything about it, except that Mitsumi was taken there do we? [20:44] It soudns like the Knights of Shadows base perhaps [20:44] Spinner: That castle has strong links to the demi-plane of Shadow, but we're not sure which organisation owns it. [20:44] probably [20:45] well, we were planning to do something about it sdooner or later anwyay [20:45] the KoS - who else? [20:45] Renik (mumbles) Later sounded just great... [20:45] yes well [20:46] Renik: We should ask ... [20:46] that sounds like the shapechangers are up to their eyeballs in this then [20:46] Spinner: Shapechangers? [20:47] creatures which assume the shape of others, and their social patterns as well [20:47] Spinner: Like dopplegangers? [20:47] for instance, one assumed the shape of a horse, and even the other horses didn't notice anything wrong [20:47] Spinner looks disturbed. [20:47] that sounds better than a doppleganger, not to mention great paranoia to actually try and fit into a horse herd! [20:48] It didn't even change it's dominance or social station in the herd [20:48] Spinner: A doppleganger couldn't do a horse, for a start. They only take humanoid shapes. [20:49] Spinner: That would imply a certain amount of memory reading, like dopplegangers do. But with an animal? [20:49] Spinner shakes his head. [20:49] it may have used the horses skin [20:49] the concern is that we have learnt that the knights of shadow were apparently taken over by these shape shifters [20:50] Spinner: They were a powerful organisation, and very paranoid. Those shifter must be good. [20:51] yes [20:51] ooc shifters, plural. [20:51] anyway, we can find out if that is the knights castle. If so, we attack. If not, we attack anyway. [20:51] assuming we can get enough information about it to make an attack feasible. [20:52] Spinner: Very good. I will inform the mother of all about your acceptance and return when I have information to give you. [20:52] in this case, i think just destroying the place is feasible, possible, and a lot easier than getting hit by traps all of the time [20:52] does everyone agree to this? [20:53] um accpetance? [20:53] A rumble of ayes. [20:53] Mitsumi looks thoughtful. [20:53] I accept the offer for further information - that;s all at this point [20:53] it's no offer - it's our price [20:54] Spinner: As long as Kasin accepts, the mother of all will agree to the deal. [20:54] Renik frowns. [20:54] why?! [20:54] do you believe the others will go along with whatever I suggest? [20:54] Spinner: Because you will go if you can, and most of the others will go to help you. [20:54] * Kasin sighs [20:55] * Kasin mutters "to prevent me hurting myself" [20:55] Renik looks at Kasin, worried. [20:55] * Kasin pats Renik on the hand. [20:55] *clank* [20:56] (actually, you're at the table so gauntlets would be off) [20:56] ooc: grin [20:57] ok, well I accept. You can accept that if you choose [20:57] Spinner: It is done. [20:57] Spinner rises, smiling sadly. [20:58] Spinner: I'm sorry I had to offer terms rather than free co-operation. But it wasn't my choice... [20:58] hey, don't worry Spinnner. I';m not likely to hare off and get myself killed facing that thing [20:58] Spinner: It is the principle of the thing. [20:59] I understand [20:59] Spinner smiles wrily and leaves, after goodbyes have been said. [20:59] ooc: unless people wnat to talk, we let the others back in? [21:00] OOC: None of the NPCs will object to the others coming back in. [21:00] actually, there is one thing I want to say: we really, really need to check that Daegar is what he is [21:00] Renik: How? [21:00] no idea [21:01] Renik nods glumly. [21:01] divination I guess [21:01] Mitsumi: The fact that you can detect evil on him is probably a good sign... in this case. [21:01] (glances at Renik) ahhh, not necesarily actually [21:01] anyway, I wanted to cast a divination about him anwyay [21:02] ooc: I'm trying to see what happens when you get below 100 favour! :) :) :) [21:03] *** Disconnected Session Close: Wed Dec 01 21:03:09 1999 Session Start: Wed Dec 01 21:03:32 1999 [21:03] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [21:03] *** Topic is 'In the castle again...' [21:03] *** Set by DM on Wed Dec 01 18:59:38 [21:03] I said: I wanted to cast a divination about him anwyay [21:03] What was the last thing you got? [21:03] that was it [21:04] OK, pasting. [21:04] I hope this is not the 4003 playing up - i have noticed funny things [21:04] Mitsumi: We have an awful lot of divining to do. [21:04] yep [21:04] Beorn: We could always kill. Him. If he doesn't turn into something else it was really Daegar. Then we can ressurect and apologise. [21:04] Beorn raises his hands as everyone stares. [21:04] Beorn: Joking! [21:04] * alamark laughs [21:05] * Kasin smiles slightly [21:05] so much for reverence for life and death [21:05] * Kasin looks at M "you mean you have a lot to do?" *smile* [21:05] Mitsumi nods. [21:05] Bruin: I will also do some divining. The need seems urgent, and I would like to consult with Lyca. [21:06] ok, shallwe chat with the others now? [21:06] General assent. [21:07] oh, one last thing - I was serious about not going off. I have too much to live for. [21:07] The others will be called for, and they will file in. [21:07] I'm sorry about that [21:08] Krell: Is the news good or bad? [21:08] good [21:08] further asistance [21:08] Tril: That's a change. [21:09] * Kasin nods slowly [21:09] It underscores the seriousness of the situation I think [21:10] Sir Orwell: It makes our worries about those giants seem a little insignificant. [21:10] Vel: Lives are never insignificant. [21:10] not insigficant to the Altern civilians [21:11] unfortunately it does decrease the priority of our response [21:11] (kasin has spent too much time on Earth :) [21:11] :) [21:12] Krell: So Spinner and his friends will help again? [21:12] yes [21:13] you could say that [21:13] Velorean: I have been thinking about what has been said. It would seem that at a time such as this, any concentration of power is an invitation to attack. [21:14] that works both ways [21:14] Vel: Indeed. We must be always ready to make rapid responses. [21:15] I think for now, that we drop the giants [21:15] aside from altering the Altans [21:15] alerting [21:16] ooc: pray I don't alert you more! [21:16] OOC: BTW, Dennis wants the computer but can wait until 10pm. [21:16] ooc: ok [21:16] ooc: arrghhh, not tonight [21:16] ooc: at least the battle with the giants is over [21:17] we can't provide transport home for you right now [21:17] can you wait over the next two days? we have to warn the alterns as well [21:17] Sir Orwell: We understand. Perhaps we can be of use here? [21:18] General nods. [21:18] well, each of you is skilled in military affairs [21:19] it would be to everyone's advantage if you gained some familiarality with the Letnorian army [21:19] if you wish [21:19] or whatever alternative you can think up [21:20] The meeting ends? [21:20] yep [21:20] OK, people will wander off. [21:21] Mitsumi: I will get some rest so I can do divinations. [21:21] Bruin: I as well. [21:21] to Kasin: I'd like to go to Maret, but only have 1 teleport [21:21] Kasin will go and cast a div (yes, she has one in memory) [21:21] can you wait about 15 minutes? [21:22] Beorn: I'll go and tell Zortash. [21:22] can you guys manage withour me until morning? [21:22] sure [21:22] I can give you a lift back if you like, provided it's not for too long [21:22] Viv: I have no more teleports today. [21:22] he has 1 doesn't he? [21:23] only used 2, 1 to go further in, 1 to get back [21:23] No, one used earlier. Can't remember when, buy you specifically had only one left when you went in. [21:24] I think you probably teleported there - something about the weight limit of teleport lock and Shotan? [21:24] no, I'm sure it wasn't. I remember she had enough to escape, get healed, and come back - but not enough to then esacpe again [21:24] i don't know how long i'll be there [21:24] oh yes, ok then [21:24] I guess you could wairt for a bit, then return without me if i will be long [21:24] although I still don't remember it [21:25] i've got 1 [21:25] I guess I don't. sorry [21:26] see you in the morning [21:27] Kasin will head off to do a div [21:27] OK, to your windows! [21:27] i won't leave just yet [21:28] OK [21:28] i want to here the results of the divinations people can manage today, then i'll leave [21:32] * Kasin Kasin returns seeming satisfied [21:33] Daegar is fine for the moment [21:34] ooc: LOL! [21:34] pasting.... [21:34] Robert looked back, smiling. "Aye.. looks like the lads want tae be alone wi' each other. I'm no one tae break intae the middle. Leslie's vera loyal tae [21:34] Tremain, ye ken. He's like a dog, or so I've heard. Da never let me have one." [21:34] [21:34] The teacher chuckled. "I had a dog when I wash a lad. Besht friend I e'er had befer it died." [21:34] [21:34] "Oh?" Robert said, stuffing the stale bread into his mouth, glad of any food, especially Jenny's. "Ye must have been sad then." [21:34] [21:34] Alec nodded. "Aye, but it washna sho bad. Ye shee, I wash out wi' him in the fieldsh runnin' from, weel, a man who wanted tae do more tae me than run [21:34] me through. I had eaten grash and bugsh fer twa daysh, and wee Will washna doin' much better. Sho, I shaved ush both a bit of shufferin' and ate him." [21:34] [21:34] Robert nearly choked on his bread and Jenny had to jump up and clap him on the back a few times to help him out. When she sat back down, she [21:34] slapped her husband on the arm, appalled. Scolding him, "I dinna want ye tellin' such stories tae the lad, Alec! He's tired out and may start believin' them. [21:34] And over dinner, too. Och, Alec, ye're too hard on me nerves!" [21:35] Stop it, please. We don't have much time left. [21:35] ok, wait for Mitsumi [21:36] Mitsumi won't be ready until well into the evening. [21:37] Sophie? Alamark going now? [21:37] ok, play with Girak, play with Renik, see the troops, whatever until the next day [21:37] hmm [21:37] how many hours roughly? [21:38] It's about two in the afternoon. [21:40] hmmm [21:40] salright i wait [21:40] until mitsumi's ready and wait for the answers from everyone's divinations [21:40] I rest up in the meantime [21:40] OK ... Mitsumi will return well after dinner. [21:41] Mitsumi: Which divinations first? Or should we use the Commune first? [21:41] *** Retrieving #rpg2 info... [21:41] your choice [21:41] *** Retrieving #rpg2 info... [21:41] Mistumi: What am I going to be asking about? [21:42] * Kasin shrugs [21:42] Mistumi: Well, I'll start off with a divination about information about this "challenge". [21:43] Mitsumi will wander off to the shrine and return a while later. [21:43] M: I received two pieces of information: [21:44] Firstly, a challenge is an allowable way for a Deity to extend their influence on a plane. It is not breaking any rules, and does not allow direct intervention by other powers, although more than the usual amount of aid may be given. [21:45] A challenge is only done when the challenger is confident that they have the resources to take the plane. They seldom fail. [21:45] bugger [21:45] Secondly: The challenger in this case is Coldhin. [21:45] Mitsumi looks grim. [21:46] who is coldhin? [21:46] aqnd isn't it interesting that the gods of good know, whereas corlin didn't? [21:46] M: Coldhin? The Goddess of Demons! [21:47] Bugger [21:47] I thought that name was familiar [21:48] Just what we need - more demons! [21:48] Mitsumi: From what I've heard about such things, I would imagine that Coldhin has a large amount of followers on this plane already, and ways to bring in more without breaking any rules. [21:48] * alamark groans [21:48] M: Yes, this means armies of demons, I'm afraid. [21:48] oh great [21:48] could be worse. how, i'm not sure, but it could be [21:49] M: I'm going to do a range of general question with the Commune, to try to find the extent of Coldhin's influence on this plane currently, and do a divination about local hot-spots. [21:49] good idea [21:50] Mitsumi wanders off and people grumble quietly amongst themselves. [21:50] Mitsumi comes back shaking her head slowly. [21:51] M: As some of you know there are five major continents on this planet. [21:51] yes.... [21:51] M: Coldhin has little or no influence on two, a strong influence on two, and a moderate and growing influence on this one. [21:52] M: It is unlikely that she can extend her influence on the other continents without taking this one first. Fairly completely. [21:53] M: As to local hot-spots, I was told to follow our leads and our intuition. [21:53] She? [21:53] M: Coldhin is normally considered female. [21:54] thats interesting about the taking of this continent [21:54] I wonder why that is? [21:55] M: Yes. I would imagine that this continent's position or resources are somehow strategically important. [21:55] OOC I have to go, guys. [21:55] ok [21:55] experience and favour! [21:55] the last 4 or 5 sessions worth! [21:55] OOC Think of more divinations for Mitsumi to do, and we can do that much via e-mail. [21:55] I gave you some the session before last, didn't I? [21:56] The nodes maybe [21:56] no [21:56] bugger [21:57] Anyway, XP for this session and the previous one. 45k. If you haven't received XP before that e-mail me with details. [21:57] I'll check the logs [21:57] hit dice I'll email you about [21:57] You can have 43 points of favour, Kasin. For this session and the last. [21:58] ok [21:58] See you guys (virtually) around. [21:58] * DM waves [21:58] ok [21:58] *wave* [21:58] * Kasin makes like the ocean and waves [21:58] *** DM has quit IRC (Leaving) [21:58] *** Disconnected Session Close: Wed Dec 01 21:58:43 1999