Session Start: Mon Jan 29 19:03:06 2001 [19:03] *** Now talking in #rpg2
[19:03] <mrs_white> hi
[19:03] <mrs_white> mrs white?
[19:03] <mrs_white> kasin is use :(
[19:04] * mrs_white waits
[19:04] <hannes> I see...
[19:04] *** mrswhite is now known as QKasin [19:05] <Q_Kasin> sooo...
[19:06] <hannes> :)
[19:06] <alamark> MWAHAHAHAA! 1 AM TH3 CHANN3L CR3AT0R!!! :) [19:06] <hannes> I hate that program she's got running. [19:06] <Q_Kasin> we were going to summon ana elemental to ask it about vaccuum [19:06] <Q_Kasin> ?
[19:06] <Q_Kasin> why
[19:06] <alamark> Hiya
[19:07] <hannes> I assume it's a program anyway. [19:07] *** alamark sets mode: +o Q_Kasin [19:07] *** alamark sets mode: +o hannes [19:07] <Q_Kasin> why?
[19:07] <alamark> I take it Kasin is taken [19:07] <Q_Kasin> yep
[19:07] <alamark> Note quite finished eating btw [19:07] <Q_Kasin> ready
[19:08] <hannes> Why do I hate it or why do I think it's a program? [19:08] <Q_Kasin> doesn't matter
[19:08] <hannes> OK
[19:08] <Q_Kasin> started doing Shotan's skills, I assume he gets skill points for the xp levels not the bonus levels. [19:08] <hannes> Yep, Bruin had volunteered. [19:08] <Q_Kasin> great, summon away
[19:09] <hannes> (Re Shotan) Yep.
[19:10] <Q_Kasin> ok...waits for the summoning/Sophie finish eating [19:10] <hannes> OK, Bruin will summon one. An Elder elemental. [19:11] <hannes> EE: Yes?
[19:11] <Q_Kasin> (does bruin want to do do the talking, or us?) [19:12] <hannes> (You may as well. He'll tell it to answer your questions.) [19:12] <Q_Kasin> we would like some information about high altitudes [19:13] <hannes> EE: Yes?
[19:13] <Q_Kasin> what happens to the air there? is there air there, or not? [19:13] <Q_Kasin> also, is there a maximum altitude that you could go to? [19:14] <hannes> EE: Hmm... do you mean in this place or in general? [19:14] <Q_Kasin> this plane
[19:14] <Q_Kasin> but in general would be good to know [19:14] <hannes> EE: I am not sure on this particular plane. [19:14] <hannes> (Dicebot please?)
[19:15] <hannes> EE: For that matter I don't even know which plane this is. [19:15] <Q_Kasin> (coming)
[19:15] <Q_Kasin> A prime
[19:16] <Q_Kasin> (slooowwwly)
[19:16] <hannes> EE: That doesn't tell me much. [19:16] * Q_Kasin shrugs
[19:16] <Q_Kasin> How else can you identify a prime? [19:16] <Q_Kasin> regulus 5 if it helps any [19:17] <hannes> EE: By the flavors of the wind, and it's strength. By it's dimensions? [19:17] <Q_Kasin> doesn't help us I'm afraid [19:18] <hannes> EE: As for in general, normally the elements all stick together. So eventually, if you go high enough, there won't be much air either. [19:18] * Q_Kasin nods
[19:18] <Q_Kasin> it gradually peters out then? [19:18] <hannes> EE nods.
[19:19] <alamark> yep
[19:19] <Q_Kasin> is it possible to go above that? [19:20] <hannes> EE: I don't know. My kind are not comfortable in a place without air, just like your kind normally prefers a mixture of elements, being mixtures yourselves. [19:20] * Q_Kasin nods
[19:21] <Q_Kasin> anyone have any other questions? [19:21] <hannes> (no one volunteers any) [19:22] <Q_Kasin> ok, well that answers what we wanted to know then [19:22] <Q_Kasin> Unless you could find out in some way the answer to my lst q [19:22] <Q_Kasin> (last q)
[19:23] <hannes> EE: I could attempt to fly upwards, to see how high I could go. I'd prefer not to though. [19:23] <Q_Kasin> I think it could be dangerous, not to mention time consuming [19:23] <Q_Kasin> so that wouldn't be necessary [19:24] <hannes> EE: Good.
[19:24] <Q_Kasin> ok, well....thats it
[19:25] <hannes> Bruin sends the elemental back. [19:25] <Q_Kasin> [back to the castle]
[19:25] <alamark> hmm
[19:25] <hannes> (Have you done the spells for the Drow yet, BTW?) [19:25] <alamark> So how the hell are we going to get up there? [19:25] *** hannes sets mode: +s
[19:25] *** hannes changes topic to 'In the castle.' [19:25] <Q_Kasin> no, didn't finish the things I needed to do for Norse on Sunday either! [19:25] <Q_Kasin> teleport will do
[19:25] <Q_Kasin> assuming we can survive [19:26] <hannes> (Can you please arrange them before Friday? I'll need to know. :) [19:26] <Q_Kasin> for which we will need a necklace of adapation or similiar [19:26] <Q_Kasin> (ok)
[19:26] <Q_Kasin> which will take a while [19:27] <Q_Kasin> alternatively, I could get my helm back from the dwarves and try and get them to make an air-tight suit [19:27] <Q_Kasin> which wouldn't be a bad idea for this anwyay [19:27] <hannes> R: Both would be best. Just in case. [19:27] * Q_Kasin nods
[19:27] <Q_Kasin> well, I'll go and get my helm then [19:28] <hannes> (You do so. The dwarves won't be too chuffed, but they're not going to argue.) [19:28] <Q_Kasin> (can they do the suit?) [19:28] <alamark> No
[19:28] <alamark> Metal is not a particularly airtight material [19:28] <alamark> You'd be better off using rubber seals [19:29] <alamark> We may be able to manage rubber [19:29] <alamark> Low-tech
[19:29] <hannes> They can't make it airtight, no. Well, not without some sort of magic. [19:29] <alamark> Just need the right plants [19:29] <alamark> if we're going to seriously do this, we'll want it to be as low-magic as possible. [19:29] <Q_Kasin> yeah, I was thinking rubber [19:30] <Q_Kasin> perhaps the elves could do that bit, they know plants [19:30] <alamark> No idea how we're going to get up there though. [19:30] <alamark> What if it dispels magic as opposed to anti-magic shell-type thing? [19:30] <alamark> IIRC, rubber plants are tropical. [19:30] <hannes> Allandrak: In either case, an artifact or similar should be fine. [19:31] <Q_Kasin> some other kind of plant (and yes they are) [19:31] <alamark> Hmmm
[19:31] <Q_Kasin> my plate should be ok [19:31] <Q_Kasin> wasn't intending to take other non-essential magic through, just in case [19:31] <Q_Kasin> would be wise I think [19:32] <hannes> Allandrak: How about just making a really big balloon of air? [19:32] <Q_Kasin> can do that too
[19:32] <Q_Kasin> has other problems, like how to move, see, etc. useful for a group [19:33] <hannes> Allandrak: Hmm... yeah. Would be OK with flying, but... [19:33] <alamark> Perhaps we should hire some of the Elanian gnomes? [19:33] <hannes> Allandrak shudders.
[19:33] <Q_Kasin> I'd rather not
[19:33] <Q_Kasin> well, could be useful for transferring to the station [19:34] <Q_Kasin> smaller, small enough to fit inside an airlock [19:34] <hannes> Beorn: We gonna teleport up? [19:34] <Q_Kasin> yep
[19:34] <hannes> Beorn: Then why don't we make a real big bottle. Airtight and doesn't weigh much. [19:34] <hannes> Beorn: And we pop the cork to get to the airlock. [19:35] <Q_Kasin> it will weigh a bit. possible tho [19:35] <Q_Kasin> might need to do more than "pop the cork" too [19:35] <Q_Kasin> like, how to fly up to the airlock [19:35] <Q_Kasin> bottle could work below the limit tho [19:35] <hannes> B: Hmm... yeah.
[19:36] <alamark> Look, i think this may be in Lyca's jurisdiction. Perhaps getting Zortash to do a commune? [19:36] * Q_Kasin nods
[19:36] <Q_Kasin> sure, sounds good
[19:36] <Q_Kasin> what do we want to know? [19:36] <alamark> We know it's definitely OK according to Shamane, but we need more details. [19:37] <alamark> Say, more about the division between magic and whatever-it-is [19:37] * Q_Kasin nods
[19:37] *** Q_Kasin is now known as kasin [19:37] <hannes> Beorn: We go to the temple, then? [19:37] <kasin> (yah!)
[19:37] <kasin> okies
[19:37] <hannes> :)
[19:38] *** hannes changes topic to 'At the Moongate.' [19:38] <hannes> You're at the new temple of Lyca. [19:38] <hannes> Zortash: Good evening all. How can I help? [19:38] <kasin> (melody) Ooooh Zoorrtah (music) [19:39] <kasin> (skips through the tulips) [19:39] <kasin> (alamark?)
[19:40] <hannes> (sigh)
[19:40] <hannes> (Has Sophie been disconnected?) [19:41] <alamark> Um, we would like a divination done, but the subject matter is not something we're meant to talk about. [19:41] <alamark> Any suggestions?
[19:41] <hannes> Z: It depends on why you aren't supposed to talk about it. [19:41] <alamark> Beorn could do it as he has the knowledge, but.... [19:41] <kasin> actually, this bit isn't knowledge that we can't talk about [19:42] <hannes> Beorn: Hey yeah, I could too. [19:42] <hannes> Beorn grins.
[19:42] <alamark> It isn't?
[19:42] <alamark> I guess not.
[19:42] <kasin> Well, beorn could do it [19:42] <alamark> There is some kind of object very high in the sky. [19:42] <kasin> stop
[19:42] <hannes> Z: ..but he doesn't have one memorised, right. [19:42] <hannes> Beorn nods to Z.
[19:43] <alamark> ok, ok.
[19:43] <kasin> (e) we are discussing the magic/non-magic barrier, not the station [19:43] <alamark> OK, OK
[19:43] <kasin> (e) don't mention the station [19:43] <alamark> For Pete's sake!
[19:44] <hannes> R: No, for all our sakes. [19:44] <alamark> There is a barrier of some kind very high up where magic seems to end, or not function. [19:44] <hannes> Z nods.
[19:44] <kasin> perhaps this would be better waiting for Beorn. We can wait [19:44] <alamark> Isn't a divination of this magnitude going to require an altar? [19:45] <hannes> Z: (to K) Am I not supposed to know about the barrier? [19:45] <alamark> If so, it can't be done in the castle. [19:45] <kasin> I'm sure it could be done outside of the castle, here [19:45] * kasin shrugs
[19:45] <kasin> That isn't a problem I think [19:45] <hannes> Z: Good. Because I've know about it for a while. [19:45] <kasin> whew!
[19:46] <kasin> what do you know about it? [19:46] <hannes> Z: Well, it's not really a barrier. Just as you go higher, magic gets weaker. [19:46] * kasin nods
[19:47] <hannes> Z: Magical beings such as myself aren't too adversely affected, although apparently it does get painful if you go high enough. [19:47] * kasin nods
[19:47] <kasin> so it peters out?
[19:47] <kasin> how high does it go?
[19:47] <hannes> Z: Seems to, yes. Happens on most of the primes I've heard of. [19:48] <hannes> Z: Can't give you an exact number. And even if I could, I believe that it varies between planes. [19:48] * kasin nods
[19:48] <kasin> rough guess?
[19:49] <hannes> Z: Umm... a mile or two? [19:49] <kasin> a mile or two???
[19:49] <kasin> it starts then, or it has significant effect then [19:49] <kasin> (? at the end of that)
[19:50] <hannes> Z: (chuckles) You said a rough guess. I just know that's it's far higher than anyone can normally fly. [19:50] <hannes> Z: Even my people.
[19:50] <alamark> Presumably when there's no more air. [19:50] * kasin nods to Z and A
[19:51] <kasin> (weird song BTW Sophie) [19:51] <hannes> Z: I believe that the magic and the air both thin out at roughly the same rates. Well, relatively. [19:52] * kasin nods
[19:52] * kasin looks thoughtful
[19:52] <alamark> ooc: A Canadian Date by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie. [19:53] <hannes> (OOC: That's the name of the song???) [19:53] <alamark> ooc: Yep. 3 Dead Trolls is a Canadian comedy act [19:54] <kasin> (ooc: shakes head)
[19:54] <kasin> (ooc: crazy canucks :)
[19:54] <alamark> ooc: They're the same guys that did the Internet Help Desk skit [19:54] <hannes> (I'm listening to the War of the Worlds) [19:55] <kasin> how do you know this Zortash? [19:55] <alamark> OOC: Their like DAAS, but geekier, and Canadian [19:56] <hannes> Z: My kind are flyers. Flyers and clerics. Some have tried experimenting to see what is possible. [19:56] * kasin nods
[19:56] <kasin> interesting anyway
[19:57] * kasin smiles
[19:57] <hannes> Renik smiles.
[19:58] <kasin> perhaps we want to do that commune? [19:58] <hannes> Z: Gladly. What shall I ask? Or do you wish Beorn to do it? [19:59] <hannes> (Beorn doesn't look enthusiastic.) [19:59] <alamark> Um, is the sky considered Lyca's domain? [19:59] <kasin> wellll. I guess you could do it Zortash, although we may hve to be careful, you understand [19:59] <hannes> Z: No.
[20:00] <hannes> (that was to A0
[20:00] <hannes> (that was to A)
[20:00] <hannes> (I got ants IN my keyboard! Aargh!) [20:00] <kasin> (ants?)
[20:00] <kasin> (laugh)
[20:00] <hannes> (Yep, they've been infseting my desk. Now moving to the keyboard.) [20:01] <kasin> (after the chips)
[20:02] <hannes> (Well, they're really keen on that water-bottle.) [20:02] <kasin> what tends to fail over distance Z, so some things work better than others [20:02] <kasin> (? at the end there)
[20:03] <hannes> Z: Hmm... how do you mean? [20:04] <kasin> do certain types of magic work better at high altitudes than others? [20:05] <hannes> Z: At high altitudes? Mmm... air magic always works better away from the ground, but other than that not really. [20:06] <kasin> hate to teleport high up and find your air magic allowing you to breathe fails [20:06] <hannes> Z: True. Teleporting high up seems to work better than other magics, since most of the magic is at the depoarture. I've heard of people having problems that way. [20:07] <alamark> Such as?
[20:07] <hannes> Z: Such as?
[20:08] <kasin> what problems
[20:09] <hannes> Z: Ah .. well, had someone teleport up and their fly spell failed. [20:09] <kasin> wheeee splat
[20:09] <hannes> Z: Gets a bit hard to stay aloft up there. Not enough air to push the wings against with our bulk. [20:09] <hannes> Z: Well, no. Just cast another on the way down. [20:10] <kasin> any other problems?
[20:11] <hannes> Z: Just things of that type. Like I said, you can teleport to somewhere where magic might not work as well. I've even heard of someone who apparently teleported into a magic-dead zone. [20:11] <hannes> Z: Might just be a rumor though. [20:11] <kasin> intresting...
[20:12] <kasin> how did they survive?
[20:14] * kasin waits
[20:14] <alamark> Hmm
[20:16] <hannes> Z: They didn't.
[20:16] <alamark> Teleport "to" a magic-dead zone... [20:16] <alamark> Interestink
[20:16] <hannes> Z: The rumor was from someone who was already in the zone. [20:16] <kasin> already in the zone?
[20:16] <kasin> how did they get out?
[20:17] <hannes> Z: Given that they were warriors, they walked. [20:17] <kasin> ah, I see
[20:17] <alamark> When all else fails... [20:17] <kasin> shanks mare
[20:18] <kasin> (e) perhaps we could teleport to the area, and simply fall down to leave [20:18] <hannes> R: (e) I don't like the perhaps. [20:18] <alamark> Erk.
[20:19] <hannes> Beorn (e) Sky-furfing, like in that Batman movie. Cool! [20:19] <hannes> (surfing)
[20:19] <kasin> (e) experimentation is the go here before risking everything [20:19] <kasin> oh, Z, how about artifacts? [20:20] <hannes> Z: Artifacts? Hmm... most of them work fine. They normally supply their own magic. At least for a while. [20:20] <hannes> Allandrak (e) We could use Vanish to teleport something up and watch what happens. [20:20] <kasin> any harm to them?
[20:21] * kasin nods to Alanndrak
[20:21] <hannes> Z: Not that I've heard. [20:21] <kasin> great
[20:21] <kasin> well, that is a topic for a divination [20:21] <kasin> or commune
[20:22] <kasin> (e) another topic would be why we are able to scry near to the object in question. too close to be a coincidence [20:22] <hannes> Z: I get quite a few questions in a commune. We'll want a few more questions before I cast it. [20:22] <hannes> R (e) But we can't really have him ask that. [20:23] * kasin nods to Z and R
[20:23] <alamark> Do artifactsburn out if they're used too much in that situation [20:24] <hannes> Z: Possibly. Or perhaps they just go dormant. I'm not sure. Possibly depends on the artifact. [20:24] <kasin> ok, questions so far. artifacts. viv in particular - he can teleport. if we should at all. if it's a good idea to do so. [20:25] <hannes> Z nods.
[20:26] <kasin> any other q's?
[20:27] <hannes> Allandrak: How about asking if there are dangers involved with teleporting that high? Air pressure and lack thereof, and such. [20:27] <kasin> yes
[20:28] <kasin> plus a general "is there anything we don't know which makes this a no-go unless we fix that problem too" [20:28] <hannes> Z nods.
[20:29] <kasin> any others?
[20:30] <hannes> R: None that I can think of. [20:31] <kasin> willing to do a commune Z? [20:31] <hannes> Z: I take it that this is important, so yes. [20:32] <hannes> Z will head to the main altar room to cast his spell. [20:32] <kasin> one moment
[20:32] <hannes> Z pauses.
[20:32] <kasin> ask if my suit is a workable idea, if you have any spare [20:33] <alamark> Hmm
[20:33] <hannes> Z: Your suit?
[20:34] <kasin> yes, my suit
[20:35] <hannes> Z: You know that Lyca will answer the questions I ask, but if I don't know what I'm asking about then she may not give the best answers. [20:36] <kasin> an air-tight suit
[20:36] <hannes> Z: Ah, I see. Very well, I'll ask that. [20:37] * kasin waits
[20:38] <hannes> Z will pause for a moment and then head off to cast his spell. [20:38] <hannes> (Anyone stop him this time?0 [20:38] <kasin> no
[20:39] <hannes> (Sophie?)
[20:39] <alamark> no
[20:40] <hannes> OK, he'll head off and come back a while later. [20:40] <hannes> Z: OK, let me give you all the information and then you can ask questions. [20:40] * kasin nods
[20:41] <hannes> Z: Do artifacts funtion up there? Some. [20:41] <hannes> Z: Will Viv work up there? Yes. [20:41] <hannes> Z: Will this damage Viv? Maybe. [20:41] <hannes> Z: Is there some way to make sure Viv doesn't get damaged? Yes. [20:42] <hannes> Z: How do we make sure of this? Be quick. [20:42] <hannes> Z: Will one hour be safe? Yes. [20:42] <hannes> Z: Will all of Viv's functions work there? No. [20:43] <hannes> Z: Will teleport work there? Yes. [20:43] <kasin> whew
[20:43] <hannes> Z: Should you go? Maybe. [20:43] <hannes> Z: Is it very dangerous? Yes. [20:44] <hannes> Z: Are they likely to survive? Maybe. [20:44] <hannes> Z: Are they likely to be able to retreat if problems arise? Yes. [20:45] <hannes> Z: Are there other dangers that the lack of air and magic? Yes. [20:45] <hannes> Z: What is one of these dangers? I got no answers to this one. [20:45] <kasin> hmmm
[20:45] <hannes> Z: Will Kasin's suit work? Maybe. [20:45] <hannes> Z: And that's about that. [20:46] <alamark> So there are dangers other than the lack of air and magic. [20:46] <kasin> yes.
[20:46] <kasin> (e) maybe something there [20:47] <hannes> R (e) Perhaps. Hmm...
[20:48] <kasin> (e) I could teleport straight into the station [20:48] <kasin> want to test things with a vanish first [20:49] <hannes> Allandrak: How do we test if teleportation back will work? [20:49] <kasin> that is a hard one to test [20:50] <hannes> All: Yup.
[20:51] <kasin> welll...shall we try the vanish? [20:52] <kasin> (e) could basnish something to outside the station and into the station - something which shows the presence or absence of air or pressure [20:52] <hannes> All: I don't have one in memory, but it's getting late anyway. Tomorrow? [20:52] <alamark> OK
[20:53] <kasin> yep
[20:53] <hannes> OK, the night will pass. [20:53] *** hannes changes topic to 'At the palace.' [20:54] <kasin> night places
[20:54] <hannes> OK, what are you going to Vanish, and how will you make sure it gets to where it should? [20:54] *** hannes changes topic to 'At the palace.' [20:54] <kasin> scry, vanish something to a spot in the field of view [20:55] <kasin> hmmm, something which reacts to pressure... [20:55] <kasin> a sealed bladder maybe
[20:55] <hannes> That would work.
[20:56] <kasin> anything else?
[20:56] <hannes> All: Hmm... where do you want it sent? [20:57] <kasin> near the station, in a view of view for clairvoyance [20:57] <kasin> so we can see the effects [20:57] <alamark> Yep good point
[20:57] <hannes> All: It will have to be quite a large bladder if we're going to see it at that distance. [20:58] <kasin> no, I mean right in front of the field of view [20:58] <kasin> doesn't have to be next to the station for the first one [20:58] <hannes> All: First one?
[20:58] <kasin> well, I assume we want to try more than one [20:58] <kasin> if we had a way of retrieving it... [20:59] <hannes> All: Umm... I'll have to go and memorise some more then. Haven't case anything yet, so it's still fine. [20:59] <hannes> All: How many do you want? [20:59] * kasin shrugs
[20:59] <kasin> the more the safer I would think [20:59] <hannes> All: Ah damn. OK. I'll be back for lunch. [20:59] <hannes> She'll take her plate and wander off. [21:00] <kasin> sorry Allandrak!
[21:00] <hannes> (She's not happy, but she'll live.) [21:00] <hannes> WHat do you guys do while you're waiting? [21:01] <kasin> go see the elves about sealants? [21:02] <hannes> OK. Who's going? Bruin and Wilder want to come. [21:02] <kasin> they can come, np
[21:03] <hannes> (Sophie, is Alamark going?) [21:03] <alamark> Keep going as normal with school [21:03] <alamark> Yes, I'll go.
[21:03] <alamark> need to change spell memorisation [21:03] <kasin> to the elves
[21:03] <hannes> You mean you do or Alamark does? [21:04] <alamark> Alamark will
[21:05] <hannes> How many spell levels? If it takes more than a couple of hours then you won't be able to go. [21:05] <alamark> Need to get char sheets [21:05] <alamark> BRB
[21:10] <alamark> OK
[21:10] <alamark> I actually have one Vanish in memory ATM [21:10] <alamark> Only one Fly though
[21:10] <alamark> What spells will you need me to cast? [21:10] <kasin> nothing
[21:11] <hannes> Allandrak has a couple of fly's. And one Vanish. [21:11] <hannes> If you memorise one more each, will that do? [21:11] <kasin> well, we probably won't need more than a few vanishes [21:11] <kasin> some way of returning an object would be even better, but prob not feasible [21:11] <hannes> It'd have to be researched. [21:12] <hannes> Well, unless you send Viv up. :) [21:13] <kasin> yeah.
[21:13] <alamark> Levitate is not likely to have a good enough range [21:13] <kasin> ok, to the elves!
[21:14] <kasin> bing?
[21:14] <hannes> OK ... but if Alamark is going to spend the same time memorising then you don't need to wait all morning. [21:14] <hannes> And if you go during the memorisation time then he can't go. [21:14] <kasin> what is alamark changing? much? [21:15] <alamark> No
[21:15] <kasin> ok, so we go?
[21:15] <hannes> OK you go.
[21:15] <alamark> yep
[21:15] <hannes> Where do you teleport to? Outside the forest? [21:16] <kasin> ummm, where do we normally teleport to? must be somewhere inside [21:16] <hannes> I guess you'd probably have a set place to TP to by now. OK. [21:16] *** hannes changes topic to 'In the elven forest.' [21:16] <kasin> ask to see our normal elf [21:16] <hannes> You find some elves to chat to. [21:17] <hannes> Elf: Is this a state visit? [21:17] <kasin> no
[21:18] <kasin> a request for help actually, on a personal scale [21:18] <hannes> Elf: Yes?
[21:18] <kasin> for some material which is flexible, but strong, air-tight, and non-magical [21:19] <hannes> Elf: Hmmm... that is difficult. [21:19] <hannes> Elf: In fact, I can't think of any such material off hand. [21:19] <kasin> oh. oh well
[21:20] <hannes> Elf: I could ask around if you like? [21:20] <kasin> well, it's doesn't have to be really strong. much less strong than steel for example [21:21] <kasin> yes, asking around would be good. Although, we don't really have much time [21:21] <hannes> Elf: That isn't the problem. The airtight part is. [21:21] <kasin> yesssss
[21:21] <hannes> Elf: We don't have any special need for things that are airtight. [21:21] <kasin> perhaps several materials? one which is airtight, and one which is strong? [21:21] <hannes> Elf: And if we do, I suppose we'd use magic. [21:22] <kasin> yes, I suppose.
[21:22] <hannes> Elf: Would mostly airtight do? [21:22] <hannes> Elf: Hmm... and how much of this would you need? [21:22] <kasin> depends on how "mostly" mostly is [21:22] <kasin> a small amount. say 10 square feet [21:23] <hannes> Elf: Oh... that is alot. [21:23] <kasin> well, maybe less would do [21:23] <hannes> Elf: I was thinking of some of the tougher leaves, but we'd have to join them up magically. [21:23] <kasin> oh, thats is total
[21:24] <kasin> each part would be quite small [21:24] <kasin> covering for joints
[21:24] <hannes> Elf: That would be easier then. Joining it to other material would be hard though. [21:24] <hannes> Elf: What do you have in mind? [21:24] <kasin> yes. need some kind of glue [21:24] <alamark> using magic should be OK, oif it's instantaneous [21:24] * kasin nods
[21:24] <kasin> (to A)
[21:24] <kasin> joining to metal
[21:25] <hannes> Elf: Our magic won't do that one. [21:25] <hannes> Elf: Joining leaves and metal? Mmm... [21:25] <kasin> some kind of glue material perhaps? [21:26] <hannes> Elf: We have glue, but I'm not sure how well it would work with metal. Nor how strong it is. [21:27] <kasin> strong enough to withstand some pressure. hence the air tight bit [21:28] <hannes> Elf: Perhaps you would be best off telling me exactly what you have in mind? [21:28] <kasin> ummmmm
[21:28] <kasin> an airtight suit
[21:29] <hannes> Elf: For exploring deeply underwater? [21:29] <kasin> like that, yes
[21:29] <kasin> doesn't have to be able to withstand too much pressure [21:31] <hannes> Elf: Hmm... a few layers of leaves might do. Try to find some good glue. I'll arrange for the leaves. [21:31] <kasin> ok, thank you
[21:31] <kasin> this is appreciated
[21:32] <hannes> Elf: It's the least I can do. [21:32] <hannes> Elf: I'll need to get some spellweavers to work on the leaves. Will a few weeks be OK? [21:32] <kasin> well....I guess so
[21:32] <kasin> (to A) do we want to ask about any history while we are here? [21:33] <alamark> Flying?
[21:33] <hannes> Elf: If you are in a hurry I could ask them to work on this exclusively. [21:33] <hannes> Elf: Flying?
[21:33] <kasin> flying?
[21:33] * kasin looks curious
[21:34] <kasin> well, we were intending to work on this at a human scale. There is no particular, known reason for it to be ready very soon, but we would prefer not to give anyone time to react to us [21:34] <kasin> (to A) I do
[21:35] <hannes> Elf: I see. I'll see what we can do and let you know how it's going. [21:35] * kasin nods
[21:35] <kasin> could we speak to a historian at some stage as well? [21:36] <hannes> Elf: Sure. Now?
[21:36] <kasin> sure
[21:36] <hannes> He will take you to some learned elves. [21:36] <kasin> I'm interested in ancient history. ancient being as old as old can be [21:37] <hannes> LE: You mean the beginning? [21:37] <kasin> well...sure
[21:37] <hannes> LE: Very good. Take a seat then. [21:38] <hannes> (Given what you know about elves, this will take a while.) [21:38] <kasin> oh, can we have the short version please? we only have a few hours available today [21:38] <alamark> 00c: break out the munchies, guys. :) [21:38] <kasin> W can hear more at a later date [21:39] <hannes> LE: I will try to keep it brief. [21:39] <hannes> (I will summarise the elf's tale.) [21:39] <kasin> (really?)
[21:40] <hannes> In the beginning, the Tree of Life grew from the energies of the multiverse, spanning across the planes. [21:41] <hannes> He will digress to mention that the planes we refer to as 'higher' are at the top of the tree, and the hells and such are between the roots. [21:42] <hannes> When it came the season, the Tree dropped seeds into the planes, and thus were worlds created. [21:42] <hannes> Some of the seeds though, had more life that others. Some twisted and grew, quickly filling their planes. [21:43] <hannes> Others absorbed parts of the planes, becoming lands of magic and wonder. [21:43] <hannes> He digresses to mention that this is why the non-spherical planes are generally stranger, and why the smaller planes have more magic. [21:44] <hannes> Returning to the topic, he tells of how some seeds had much more Life in them then others. [21:45] <hannes> Each seed has the potential for growing a new tree. A new multiverse. [21:45] <hannes> Some seeds didn't form worlds. They had enough Life to hatch. [21:45] <hannes> The beings hatched were creators. Vastly powerful. Gods. [21:46] <hannes> Because the hatching took time though, and because it is part of nature, some of the seeds were damaged before they hatched. [21:46] <hannes> They were not perfect. Rotten, or spoiled in some way. Thus some of the higher beings are evil. [21:47] <kasin> (I think there is a kernel of truth buried in this :) [21:47] <hannes> In fact, initially there were no sides. Each of these beings was driven to form the new multiverse. SO they competed. [21:47] <alamark> :)
[21:47] <hannes> And they died.
[21:48] <hannes> In the beginning there were more goodly beings than others. But because the others fought in different ways, this changed far too quickly. [21:48] <hannes> EVentually the sensible beings banded together, and the others did likewise. [21:49] <hannes> Seeing that none would manage to achive ultimate victory - and many of them having realised that this was not their purpose - they began to populate the many worlds with their power. [21:49] <hannes> The goodly beings created much, but ever the dark ones twisted their creations. Making abominations to stalk the lands. [21:50] <hannes> The tale goes on to say that in the final battle, one single being will emerge the victor. All others will be slain. [21:50] <hannes> The battle will destroy this multiverse, but the being will become a new Tree, and a new one will be born. [21:51] <hannes> A mere two hours after starting, he winds down. [21:52] <kasin> interesting
[21:52] <hannes> LE: Does this help?
[21:53] <kasin> Yes, thank you. Some things make more sense now. [21:53] <hannes> LE smiles. "I'm glad it does." [21:53] <kasin> (reads that as lawful evil :) [21:53] <hannes> (I know :)
[21:54] <kasin> ok, we bing home?
[21:54] <kasin> actually, before we go
[21:54] <hannes> bing
[21:54] *** hannes changes topic to 'In the Castle' [21:55] <kasin> LE, do you know of any great battles between demons fought on this plane in the past? [21:56] <hannes> LE: There were many great battles with demons. But you mean between demons themselves? [21:56] <kasin> yes
[21:56] <kasin> giant ones. very giant ones [21:56] <hannes> LE: (shakes his head) No, I haven't heard of any such battles. [21:57] <kasin> oh, ok. no giant demons made of earth or fire? [21:58] <hannes> LE: Not around here, no. [21:58] <kasin> ok, well thank you for your time [21:58] <kasin> (bing)
[21:59] <hannes> bing
[21:59] * alamark sighs
[21:59] <kasin> well, we wait for the vanishes [22:00] <hannes> Allandrak is well and truly ready when you come back. [22:00] <kasin> that was intresting. the bit about non-spherical planes, trees and evil gods [22:00] <kasin> ok, lets try it!
[22:00] <hannes> Renik: Wasn't it though. [22:01] <hannes> Allandrak: I think I know how to make a suit for Kasin. Fabricate. [22:02] <kasin> hmmm? perfect
[22:02] <hannes> All: grins I memorised one of those while I was at it. [22:02] <kasin> great
[22:02] <hannes> All: Now all we need is the rubber. [22:02] <kasin> lets do the claurv/vanish [22:03] <hannes> All: OKie.
[22:03] <hannes> Clairvoyance is cast, and you see the station. [22:03] <hannes> (Assume you're not in the castle.) [22:04] <kasin> (yep)
[22:04] *** hannes changes topic to 'In the Palace' [22:05] <hannes> SHe'll then Vanish a bladder and make it appear just near the clairvoyance sensor. [22:05] <hannes> You'll see it expand as it disappears from sight. [22:05] <alamark> How about clairaud?
[22:06] <hannes> She's not casting clairaud. You can if you like. [22:06] <kasin> no air for sound
[22:06] <alamark> Prob can't hear anything though [22:06] <alamark> except wind
[22:06] <kasin> ok, so low pressure there, as we thought [22:06] <kasin> can we vanish something closer to the station? [22:06] <hannes> (BTW, note that only Allandrak will be seeing this, since Clairvoyance is caster only.) [22:06] <hannes> All: Sure. Allamark, your turn. [22:07] <kasin> if we need something large, we can get some old cloth with rods/spear shafts/etc to keep it spread out [22:08] <kasin> cast away
[22:08] <hannes> OK, you can basically get some old sheets and Vanish it. Alamark, you do so? [22:09] <alamark> yep
[22:09] <hannes> OKie. It disppears.
[22:10] <hannes> All: Yeah, it appeared. Doesn't look like anything nasty happened to it. [22:10] <kasin> ok, now, we could try and vanish something inside the station [22:10] <kasin> can't see what happens to it then unfortunately [22:11] <hannes> All: So what's the point in doing it? [22:11] <alamark> We could try... an animal. [22:11] <kasin> see if it's possible to vanish there at all [22:11] <kasin> we could. can't get it back. [22:12] <kasin> how about vanishing a CL? [22:12] <hannes> All: If the object doesn't go then there'll be no harm in attempting a teleport. [22:12] <hannes> All: And we could get the animal back. Just pick it up when you go there. [22:12] <hannes> All: Since you'll go if the teleportation works. [22:13] <hannes> All: Then again, probably can't scry on it anyway. [22:13] <kasin> true, true.
[22:13] <hannes> All: So there'd be no way to tell if it arrived safely. [22:13] <kasin> if the animal explodes horribly on the spell, then I'd prefer it happens to it not me [22:14] <kasin> how about vanishing a CL near the station? [22:14] <kasin> how many vanishes left BTW? [22:14] <hannes> All: I have one.
[22:15] <kasin> ok, so one left
[22:15] <kasin> I could go
[22:15] <kasin> tomorrow
[22:15] <hannes> All: Hmm... risky.
[22:16] <hannes> All: But I don't have any better ideas. [22:16] <alamark> I have two (assuming All cast that one) [22:17] <kasin> I could go today in that case [22:17] <kasin> (can vanish transport ppl?) [22:17] <hannes> (So far you have both cast one Vanish) [22:17] <hannes> (No)
[22:17] <alamark> IMO, try a CL, then try an animal intelligent enough to talk to. [22:18] <hannes> All: How would that help? [22:18] <kasin> the CL will test magic
[22:18] <alamark> If it survives - speak with animals [22:18] <hannes> All: And how do we do it, for that matter? [22:18] <alamark> If not, speak with dead [22:18] <kasin> the animal just needs to be living [22:18] <hannes> All: We can't TP the animal there without us going. Vanish won't work. [22:18] <hannes> All: And we can't get it back, so we can't speak to it. Or it's corpse. [22:19] <kasin> good point
[22:20] <kasin> so, vanish the CL then? [22:20] <hannes> OK.
[22:21] <hannes> All: I didn't see anything. [22:22] <kasin> no light, or dim enough you couldn't see it [22:22] <kasin> ok, next trick: fabricate a suit [22:22] <hannes> All: Yeah. Or it disintegrated on the way. Happens sometimes. [22:23] <kasin> huh?
[22:24] <hannes> All: There's a small chance that vanished things just disappear. Not much, but its there. [22:24] <kasin> oh, ok
[22:24] <kasin> well, glad I'm not vanishing! [22:24] <kasin> how do you feel about this VIv? [22:25] <hannes> Viv: You mean us going? SHould be fine. [22:25] <alamark> We can try one more CL [22:25] <kasin> sounds good
[22:27] <hannes> Do it? Where to, Alamark? [22:28] <alamark> same, 9in case it was disintegrated last time [22:29] <hannes> So near the staion?
[22:30] <hannes> Sophie? You send it to near the station or near the sensor? [22:32] <hannes> Am I lagging? Guys?
[22:32] <alamark> Same place Alanndrak did it [22:33] * kasin waits
[22:33] <hannes> So near the station. OK. [22:33] <hannes> All: Nope, nothing.
[22:34] <kasin> hmmm.
[22:34] <kasin> maybe the station is surrounded by anti-everything field [22:34] <alamark> I doubt it
[22:34] <kasin> maybe even a time stop type thing [22:35] <kasin> don't think I want to jump in there without finding that out first [22:36] <hannes> All: I can see why.
[22:36] <hannes> All: Mind you, the sheet thing got teleported OK. [22:37] <kasin> yes....in that case, it's prob just we can't see it [22:37] <kasin> we are unlikely to spot a rock at that distance [22:37] <alamark> The rock was magical, maybe it's there, but the CL went out [22:37] <hannes> All: Exactly.
[22:38] <kasin> yes. I had forgotten about the sheet. ok, paranoia mode off [22:38] <kasin> alanndrak, want to create a suit? [22:38] <hannes> (OOC: *the GM rubs his hands together, cackling wickedly*) [22:38] <hannes> All: Sure, just get me some rubber. [22:39] <alamark> We could make you a bladder fullof air to breath out of. [22:40] <kasin> rubber...do we have some? [22:40] <kasin> rather hard to move in
[22:40] <kasin> also, I've heard of some people who tested a beach ball style escape system. Sensory deprivation was a real problem. [22:40] <hannes> All: If we had some I wouldn't be aseking for it now. [22:41] <kasin> ok. lets see if we can get any [22:41] <hannes> All: Your call though, Kasin. [22:42] <hannes> Where will you try?
[22:42] <kasin> no idea. how common is rubber here? [22:43] <hannes> You've never seen any or heard of any. [22:43] <kasin> ok...
[22:43] <kasin> ahh, all, be hard to get hold of you know [22:43] <kasin> got anything else?
[22:44] <hannes> All: Nope. Not really. [22:44] <kasin> ok, no suit
[22:44] <kasin> well, still possible
[22:44] <hannes> All: A pigskin suit? Holds air well enough.... [22:44] <kasin> hopefully there is air inside [22:45] <kasin> if there isn't, pop back straight away [22:45] <hannes> Viv: Yeah, if you go all funny I'll bring us back. [22:46] <kasin> yep
[22:46] <kasin> blue in the face
[22:46] * kasin smiles
[22:46] <hannes> Viv: Better blue than black. [22:47] <alamark> Do any of the Alliance countries border a jungle? [22:47] * kasin nods
[22:47] <hannes> Nope. Santonia does though. [22:47] <kasin> Santonia
[22:48] <kasin> could get rubber from the jungle, if we can find it. Bruin could find it I guess. Easy enough to harvest [22:48] <kasin> bruin?
[22:49] <hannes> Bruin: Hmmm, yeah. And you can't tell me why you need all this? [22:49] <alamark> We can tell you
[22:49] <hannes> (Bruin and Wilder weren't at Unity.) [22:50] <alamark> OOC: Ah, sorry, read that as Beorn. [22:50] <kasin> (I remember)
[22:50] <kasin> Yes, we can't tell you. Sorry. [22:51] <hannes> Bruin grumbles to himself. [22:51] <hannes> Bruin: What does this 'rubber' plant look like then? [22:52] <kasin> like a palm tree? Actually, I don;t know. [22:52] <hannes> (Assuming you're using the english word for rubber.) [22:52] <kasin> I do know that it oozes rubber as it's sap [22:52] <kasin> (yep)
[22:52] <hannes> Bruin: That helps.
[22:52] <kasin> it's a soft, almost squishy substance [22:52] <alamark> It is palm like
[22:52] <hannes> Bruin: A fungus?
[22:52] <alamark> Luinja should now
[22:52] <alamark> know
[22:53] <kasin> don't thing so
[22:53] <kasin> rubber is the tree's sap [22:53] <hannes> Bruin: Ah, a tree with thick sap. Fine. [22:53] * kasin nods
[22:53] <kasin> dries on contact with air [22:54] <hannes> Bruin: Hmm... I think I've come across something liek that. Makes a big mess, basically. [22:54] * kasin nods
[22:55] <kasin> can you find it?
[22:55] <hannes> Bruin: Get me to a jungle and I can give it a shot. It may take a few days though. Or longer. [22:56] <alamark> We could get a leatherworker or similar to work it. [22:56] * kasin nods
[22:56] <kasin> for a fabricate spell
[22:56] <kasin> well, we can get you to the jungle easily enough [22:56] <hannes> All: Don't need a leatherworker when we've got the spell. [22:57] <hannes> OK, so you send him to the jungle? [22:57] <kasin> yep
[22:58] <hannes> Wilder will tag along. [22:58] <hannes> And I think we'd best leave it here for the night. Need sleep. [22:59] <kasin> ok
[22:59] <kasin> getting close anyway
[22:59] <hannes> Have 1100 XP. No Favor. No lollipop. [22:59] * hannes waves.
[23:00] <hannes> Next sessions... NS Thurs and K&A Fri? [23:00] <kasin> :(
[23:00] <alamark> Yep
[23:00] <kasin> no lollipop? wahhh!
[23:01] <alamark> :)
[23:01] <kasin> yeppididy
[23:01] <hannes> OK ... have a lollipop. O-- [23:01] * hannes waves.
[23:01] *** hannes has quit IRC ([x]chat) [23:01] * kasin mumbles around the lollipop [23:01] *** Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Jan 29 23:01:28 2001