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<GM>	Howdie
<Kasin>	hiya
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<Kasin>	hows'it going
<GM>	Tired, but otherwise not too bad.
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<alamark>	hi
<GM>	Welcome, oh scary one.
*	Kasin  grins
<alamark>	Who me? :)
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<GM>	OK, where were we. :)
<Kasin>	Phadi Abdin's mansion was wrecked
<Kasin>	AD was dead
<Kasin>	(according to the dragon)
<Kasin>	and there was an angel there
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<GM>	Yep. You were helping people who were hurt by the battles, I seem to recall.
<Kasin>	yes
<Kasin>	ummm, finish helping people?
<GM>	Fair enough. The party has enough healing to look after everyone, especially with the angel with you.
<Kasin>	yep
<Kasin>	Now what?
<Kasin>	Shall we find AD's phylactory, assuming he has one?
<alamark>	Good question
<GM>	Angel: I must go, unfortunately.
<alamark>	Wait
<GM>	Angel: (to A) Yes?
<alamark>	How did AD imprison you?  I assume it was him who did it?
<Kasin>	Agghh!
<Kasin>	but....
<GM>	Angel: (to A) It was.
<alamark>	And what are you going to do now?
<Kasin>	Could you not stay until morning?
<GM>	Angel: I must return to find what I have missed these last centuries.
<GM>	Angel: (to K) Until morning? Would that help?
<Kasin>	Well, remember what I said about...(gestures at her swords)
<Kasin>	I was hoping you could help
<GM>	Angel: Ah yes. Of course.
<Kasin>	Although, if you don't want to, thats ok
<Kasin>	I don't know what is required to restore their minds
<GM>	Angel: I have been imprisoned here for too long. It appears that I am gaining mortal traits. And forgetfulness is not one I'll cherish.
<GM>	A smiles beautifully. (There's no other word for it.)
<Kasin>	How long were you imprisioned?
<GM>	A: It is hard to say. Several centuries, at least.
*	Kasin  nods
<Kasin>	It has been 50 generations since the prophet
<GM>	A: Prophet? I'm afraid I do not even know the name of this place.
<Kasin>	(I've forgotten as well! :)
<Kasin>	No matter
<Kasin>	Who do you serve?
<Kasin>	(and who do you trust? :) - crusade quote
<GM>	A: Veanbe.
<alamark>	:)
<alamark>	The god of beauty?
<Kasin>	Veanbe...not a deity I am familiar with from the name
<GM>	A nods, smiling.
<Kasin>	the god of beauty?
<GM>	A nods again.
<Kasin>	(who do we know that to be?)
<GM>	?
<alamark>	OOC: That name
<Kasin>	(name)
<GM>	(Veanbe)
<Kasin>	(oh. I take it our chars know the name then?)
<GM>	(Yes. Sophie remembers it.)
<Kasin>	(ok. never heard it myself I don't think)
<Kasin>	Why did AD imprision you?
<GM>	(Veanbe is one of the 7 of goodness, so you should have.)
<GM>	A: He used my inherent nature to counter-balance the evil that he stored near me. He called it the Heart.
*	Kasin  nods
<Kasin>	Unfortunately the heart will be elsewhere soon now
*	Kasin  sigha
<GM>	A: How so? Or did you tell me already?
<GM>	A's brows crease in a frown, although that doesn't decrease his beauty.
<Kasin>	He told me so
<Kasin>	Very curious, that dragon
<GM>	A: I see.
<Kasin>	it made various very nasty threats, but never carried them out
<Kasin>	it even wished me luck
<Kasin>	Oh, Renik, could you heal me?
<GM>	A: Dragons are not necessarily trustworthy. The _are_ Chaos, after all.
*	Kasin  nods
<GM>	(You will have been)
<Kasin>	(ok)
<GM>	(And SHotan)
<Kasin>	(kasin would have LoH on S)
<Kasin>	still, quite strange
<Kasin>	Is or was AD a lich? he appeared to be
<GM>	A: Unfortunately my powers couldn't penetrate his barrier. I could not tell.
*	Kasin  nods
<Kasin>	I am intending to start searching for his phyl, just in case he has one
<Kasin>	although perhaps it woul dbe best to see about investigating the place that Jade found
<alamark>	Once you catch up on what you have missed, what do you intend to do then?
<GM>	A: Wise. Unfortunately I think you may not find it. I have a hunch about it.
<Kasin>	Oh?
<GM>	A: (to A) I desperately need to peruse some art. But after that ... whatever I am ordered to.
<GM>	A: (to K) The mage spent much time casting magicks in and around the Heart. I often saw him take something out of it, and then insert it again later.
<Kasin>	Really?
<GM>	A nods.
<Kasin>	hmmm
<alamark>	Hmm
<Kasin>	Well...
*	Kasin  shrugs
<Kasin>	There is much going here that is beyond my knowledge
<Kasin>	We should see if there is nay point at all to searching for the phyl.
<GM>	A: Unfortunately I have no spells, currently. Only my normal powers.
<Kasin>	also, I don't think we should mess with the possible source of the anti-div and such magic until we know who and why
<GM>	Renik nods.
<Kasin>	we may need to do so in order to leave however
<GM>	A: If there are barriers preventing me from leaving then I am allowed to lower them.
<alamark>	to A: Well, you should do what you feel is best.  We appreciate all you've done for us.
<GM>	A: I will help gladly, after all you did free me. Besides, you have much to admire amongst you.
*	Kasin  smiles
<GM>	A: And I don't mean just in the physical sense either.
<Kasin>	I was assuming not
<GM>	A: I would be happy to hear you tale. It must be a grand one.
<Kasin>	Not really
<Kasin>	quite quick actually
<GM>	A: Oh?
<Kasin>	assuming you just mean our travels such as they are in this place
<GM>	A: Not at all. I mean your tale as a whole. I haven't met many mortal emmisaries.
<Kasin>	you keep saying that
<Kasin>	what do you mean emissary?
<GM>	A: Do I?
<GM>	A: (to K) You. You are an emissary of Morn.
<Kasin>	Oh.
<Kasin>	I wasn't last time I looked
<Kasin>	Mind you, I suppose I wouldn't know
<GM>	A chuckles in appreciation.
<GM>	A nods.
<alamark>	You know, we have some fairly unique artworks at home - ones created by a society long-dead on our version of the Prime Material plane...
<alamark>	The Zidi - perhaps you've heard of them?
<GM>	A: (to A) Truly? Then perhaps I could visit you at some later time?
<Kasin>	Fine by me
*	Kasin  mutters to herself, shaking her head slightly
<GM>	A smiles slightly.
<GM>	(You guys want to rest for the night or go hunting for a phylactery?)
<Kasin>	(rest)
<Kasin>	(where did Abdin go anyway?)
<GM>	(He seems to have wandered off. Probably assessing damage or something.)
<Kasin>	(oh well)
<GM>	A: So where shall we stay for the night? Do you have quarters I could use?
<Kasin>	Good question. we were staying in there (gestures)
<GM>	A nods slowly.
<Kasin>	We should ask Phadi Abdin
<GM>	A: Very well.
<Kasin>	I don't know where he is, lets ask someone
<GM>	(You ask around and will eventually find him. He's in conference with various other Phadis in the church.)
<alamark>	Didn't he go off with some soldiers or something?
<GM>	Ab: Ah, greetings prophet.
*	alamark  winces slightly
*	Kasin  nods hello
<GM>	Ab: Is something amiss?
<Kasin>	Several things, but for the moment, we were looking for a place to stay
<GM>	Ab: I see. Would you prefer to stay with AA? He has kindly offered his mansion to us. or you could stay here, or even the palace shoudl you so choose.
*	Kasin  turns to everyone else
<Kasin>	any preference?
<GM>	Beorn: Not here.
<alamark>	OOC: AA?
<GM>	(The Phadi mage. Ab's friend.)
<Kasin>	AA's is fine by me
<GM>	Various people will nod.
<alamark>	OK
<Kasin>	I very much doubt the dragon will be back
<GM>	(AA's place will be even more lavish than Ab's place was.)
<GM>	(Basically you'll be looked after well.)
<GM>	(The night passes?)
<alamark>	Yep
<Kasin>	(yep)
<GM>	OK, you arise for the morning prayer.
<GM>	(Or at least, some of you do.... :)
<Kasin>	:)
<GM>	During the morning prayer...
<alamark>	Yes?
<GM>	(You're not there Alamark. :)
<alamark>	Oh
<GM>	(Shouldn't take long.)
<GM>	(Well, not _too_ long.)
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<GM>	Kasin and A come back to breakfast.
*	Kasin  comes to breakfast looking happy
<GM>	(Bad news ... I have someone coming to see me at 10:20.)
<Kasin>	(ahhh!)
<GM>	(Sorry!)
<Kasin>	(keep going then!)
<GM>	Renik looks at K enquiringly.
<Kasin>	Viv is feeling much better
*	Kasin  lays Viv on the table
<GM>	Viv: Hi all. What's happening?
<Kasin>	Elenil is not unfortunately
<Kasin>	(K tells Viv what has happened recently)
<GM>	OK, so after breakfast?
<Kasin>	(to A) when do you have to leave?
<GM>	A: No set time, as such. However I have been away for long. Soon would be good.
<alamark>	Umm, what happened?
<GM>	A (to A) What do your refer to?
<alamark>	Viv
*	Kasin  waits
<GM>	A: Do you mean to damage him?
<Kasin>	A fixed Viv. He also tried to fix Elenil, bu there was no sign of intelligence there
*	Kasin  waits
*	Kasin  waits
<Kasin>	What shall we do now?
<Kasin>	Try and find more information about the magic that Jade found?
<Kasin>	Try and find a possible phylactery?
<GM>	R: The question is do we stay or return home?
<alamark>	See what happens officially I guess?
<Kasin>	We may need to do something in order to return hom
<GM>	A: You mentioned some form of barrier?
<Kasin>	(to ala) yes, they will want to do some something officially I'm sure
<Kasin>	(to A) there appears to be a barrier against teleportation and divination magics here
<Kasin>	(to A) although we haven't done much testing as yet
<GM>	A: Pehaps I should check.
*	Kasin  nods
<GM>	A rises and stands straight, arms by his sides with palms outwards.
<GM>	A closes his eyes, a peaceful smile on his face.
<GM>	An aura of light glimmers around A for a moment, hypnotic in a way...
<GM>	...and then it's gone. A opens his eyes and seats himself again.
*	Kasin  watches
<GM>	A: There is a barrier to teleportation magics, that re-directs it. Another barrier blocked travel from the plane. The latter is gone now.
<Kasin>	In that case, we can go home whenever we like.
<GM>	A: As can I.
<Kasin>	We have much to thank you for
<GM>	A: I have much to thank you for.
<GM>	A smiles beautifully.
<GM>	A: Perhaps it is best if I left. I am always tempted to meddle too much.
*	Kasin  nods
<GM>	A rises.
<Kasin>	It would be best if we left soon too, I have a son to get back to who I miss very much
<GM>	A: I have enjoyed meeting you all. And I certainly will visit you, when I get the opportunity.
<GM>	A nods.
<alamark>	It was nice to meet you...um?
<alamark>	I never did catch your name...
<GM>	A: Nathaniel.
<Kasin>	Until we meet again...
<alamark>	Well, we come from the prime where Coldhin sent her minions, but I guess you'll find out when you get home
<alamark>	Look us up sometime
<GM>	A: I will find you, never fear.
<GM>	A smiles and shimmers, then he is gone.
<alamark>	OOC: How beautiful is this guy?
<GM>	(Above human, but not to the point of being alien.)
<GM>	Beorn: Hmm... that felt odd.
<Kasin>	odd? why?
<GM>	Beorn: I think someone cast a spell at me. (He looks around.)
<Kasin>	didn't seem off to me at all
*	Kasin  looks around
<GM>	Beorn: Didn't feel bad .. just this strange tingling.
<Kasin>	we had better check around then
<GM>	Beorn nods.
<GM>	(Make perception checks.)
<Kasin>	dice bot on it's way...
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<alamark>	?
<Kasin>	make by 3
<GM>	(#dicerolls)
<Kasin>	(on #dicerolls)
<Kasin>	(I automatically join this channel)
<GM>	Wilder: Hey Beorn, I think that magic thing of your isn't working anymore. You're not as pretty now.
<Kasin>	Thats strange....
<alamark>	Make by 8
<GM>	Now that you look, he certainly isn't wonderfully good looking anymore.
<alamark>	Want to let me have a look for a sec?
<GM>	Still better than he used to be though.
<alamark>	OOC: Magical appraising check?
<Kasin>	why would a beautiful angel's dissapearance cause your rod of splednor to stop working?
<GM>	Beorn takes his rod out and gives it a shake near his ear.
<GM>	B shrugs and passes it to Alamark.
*	Kasin  grin
*	alamark  laughs
<GM>	Neither person looks different after the rod changes hands.
<alamark>	make by 9
<GM>	(Yep, looks the same to you.)
<GM>	Beorn is still well-groomed, despite not holding the rod anymore.
*	Kasin  tries to detect magic
<GM>	Nothing.
<alamark>	Hmm
<alamark>	Perhaps it's power went into you Beron?
<Kasin>	(nothing on anyone?)
<alamark>	A Charisma enchancing item becomes permanent by draining it's magics
<GM>	(Nope)
<GM>	R: Really? Hmm...
<GM>	W: Well, he no longer looks like a teddy bear, anyway.
<GM>	Be growls at W, who just grins more broadly.
<Kasin>	I can't sense any magic anywhere
<Kasin>	well...another mystery
*	Kasin  shrugs
<GM>	M: I've had enough of mysteries.
<alamark>	Well, DM counts a divination, doesn't it?
<Kasin>	yes
<Kasin>	Well, depending really
*	Kasin  smiles at M
<Kasin>	shall we get out of here then?
<GM>	Kasana: We could go looking for AD's spellbooks?
<GM>	R: Without Detect Traps? I don't think so.
<GM>	M: I'm more than happy to go. Yes.
<alamark>	OOC: Remind me what happened to AD?
<Kasin>	the dragon killed him
<Kasin>	he said his body was destroyed
<Kasin>	I feel we should look for a phylactery, just in case
<Kasin>	but we can go home first, do divs about this place, etc
<Kasin>	sound good?
<GM>	M: Definitely.
<Kasin>	everyone else?
<alamark>	Do we have any idea how time passes?
<GM>	R: I think we could do much good here, but we are needed at home.
<alamark>	Relative to home I mean
<Kasin>	3 to one is our best guess so far
<Kasin>	so three days here is one at home
*	Kasin  nods to R
<GM>	R: (to K) The prophet can always come back later, to see how things are going. (grins)
*	Kasin  rolls her eyes
<Kasin>	well, in that case, lets go and see Phadi Abdin and see if there is anything else he wants before we go
<GM>	(various nods)
<Kasin>	(go looking for him, or AA)
<alamark>	Or the Prophet's adoring public....
<GM>	(You will find AA.)
<GM>	AA: Good morning. (He bows)
<Kasin>	Good morning
<GM>	AA: Ab will return soon. He is surveying his mansion. I don't mean to be impolite, but was that a spell or a miracle?
<Kasin>	We are intending on returning home, and wondered if there was anything else that needed doing before we leave?
<Kasin>	which was a spell or a miracle?
<GM>	AA: His mansion.
<Kasin>	his mansion being flattened?
<GM>	AA: It repaired itself at dawn this morning. Even the dead within have returned to life.
<Kasin>	a miracle I'd say
<Kasin>	given I didn't even know until you said so
<Kasin>	Probably the angel's doing, at morning prayers
<Kasin>	that is what he must have been doing
<alamark>	The dead returned to life you say?
<GM>	AA: Well, you are leaving, you say?
<GM>	AA (to A) So I was told. Ab will no doubt confirm it when he returns.
<Kasin>	we were intending to be off, although I will return later
<GM>	AA: Very well. Ab will be sorry that he missed you.
<alamark>	Perhaos we should wait til he returns...
<Kasin>	yes, we can wait
<GM>	AA: He would certainly appreaciate that.
<GM>	(You wait...)
<Kasin>	We can wait at least a few hours
<GM>	(Summarise or RP out?)
<Kasin>	(summarise is fine, unless it gets interesting)
<GM>	(Basically he'll return to confirm what you were told.)
<GM>	(His mansion has been rebuilt, and it's even more magnificent before. The gardens in particular. There are many flowers that he has not seen or heard of.)
<Kasin>	nice
<GM>	(All the dead are alive and well. Including animals.)
<alamark>	Yep, that sounds like Nathaniel
<Kasin>	yep
<GM>	(He is very impressed with the miracle.)
<GM>	(As is the rest of the city.)
<GM>	(There is a cordon or guards around AA's mansion, to keep the crowd out.)
<GM>	(of guards..)
<alamark>	AD, any signs of AD?
<GM>	(No signs of him. Several soldiers report seeing him badly wounded by the dragon's breath, and then dissolved by some form of acid spell.)
<GM>	(Anything else?)
<Kasin>	(ummm, nope. unless they want us to do anything else that is)
<GM>	(Lots - do you have a few decades?)
<Kasin>	(K wants to return later and speak to them about this "Jihad" - which she will mention to Abdin that she intends on doing this)
<alamark>	Jihad?
<GM>	(Fair enough. He tell you that you'll have to take major changes slowly - although the mansion miracle will certainly help your reputation.)
<Kasin>	(ok)
<alamark>	But that wasn't us
<Kasin>	doesn't matter really - it gets attributed to us and our presence, which is true enough
<GM>	(So you head home?)
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<alamark>	hmm
*	Kasin  waits
*	Kasin  waits
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<alamark>	AFK?
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<GM>	WHy de-op me?
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*	GM  spanks Kasin.
<Kasin>	you left
<Kasin>	(yes, we head home)
<alamark>	yep
*	alamark  mumbles something about religious fanatics
<GM>	(OK, Mitsumi can take some of you. Kasin will have to take the rest.)
<Kasin>	(ok)
<GM>	You Planeshift home. Mitsumi's group will then have to TP to Letnor.
<GM>	And you're back...
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<alamark>	How much time has passed?
<Kasin>	yes, how long? has anything ahppened in our absence?
<GM>	Well, Letnor is still standing...
<GM>	...and 16 days have passed.
<alamark>	And how many at the other palce?
<alamark>	place
<GM>	Around 30 or so.
<Kasin>	brb
<alamark>	So around 2:1 then
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*	DM  sighs.
<alamark>	So around 2:1 then
<DM>	Yep.
<Kasin>	b
<alamark>	hmm
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<Kasin>	well...what next?
<alamark>	:)
<alamark>	OOC: My irc client makes an amusing sound when kicking someone :)
<DM>	Mitsumi wants to do a whole spate of divs.
<DM>	She wants to see if she can locate the Heart, amongst other things.
<DM>	And of course, she'll do the quest completion div.
*	Kasin  nods
<alamark>	OK
<DM>	Bruin and the other two want to go back to check on the druids some more.
*	Kasin  waits for M to do her stuff (amongst giving Girak more hugs than he probably wants)
<alamark>	:)
*	alamark  will continue with the academy and preparing for his quest
<DM>	Girak will be annoyed that you were gone for so long.
<alamark>	OOC: Hannes, other window
<DM>	(Other window?)
<DM>	OK. You wait for Mitsumi.
<alamark>	Yep
<DM>	(What were you asking - about the demon's eating habits wasn't it?)
<alamark>	Yep
<DM>	After a long while she'll come back, looking annoyed.
<DM>	M: Well, I got information for us completing our quest, but nothing from all the other divs.
<Kasin>	rats
<DM>	M: Apparently the demon eats souls, and will begin to weaken after roughly three months without. It won't die for at least a year, though.
<Kasin>	ok, so we need to keep a constant watch for at least a year
<Kasin>	recasting the spell on the demon to keep it imprisioned as necessary
<DM>	M: Yeah. Not good news, but it could have been worse.
<DM>	Kasana: Great. A year...
<alamark>	exactement
<alamark>	How long do you think the duration is
<DM>	K: Of my spell?
<Kasin>	the demon will have to bash it's way out presumably - but it may do that quite quickly
<DM>	K: If it does, we're in trouble.
<DM>	W: Want a suggestion?
<Kasin>	go for it
<DM>	K nods slowly.
<DM>	W: Anyone here heard of the para-elemental plane of ice?
<DM>	W: WHy not either open a small conduit to there or dump the demon through onto that plane?
<Kasin>	because it may find someone and eat them
<Kasin>	we would have to guard it
<DM>	W: Yeah, but if it's frozen it'll hardly manage to get out of ice on that plane.
<DM>	K: Too risky.
<alamark>	Hold on - it's an aquatic demon right?
<DM>	M nods.
<alamark>	Why don't why force it out of the water and keep it there?
<DM>	M: How?
<Kasin>	it can drag intself along can't it?
<DM>	R: It would seem so.
<Kasin>	the problem is nothing we can do will be sure - we will have to take a chanc
<DM>	R: Pity Nathaniel isn't here. He could most likely help rather nicely.
<Kasin>	I'm not comfortable with the idea of anyone casting this ice spell continuously over a year or more
<Kasin>	Well, he will be back sometime
<DM>	R: True. Do you think he would help? Or be allowed to?
<Kasin>	I doubt he would be allowed to help, given the rules
<alamark>	We'll see
<DM>	K: So do we wait until he comes? It may be years, you know.
<alamark>	Well, we continue with our own plan in the meantime
*	Kasin  nods
<DM>	K: Fair enough.
*	Kasin  holds her head in her hands
<DM>	K: So when?
<Kasin>	anyone else have an opinion about guarding this demon for over a year?
<alamark>	Something wrong, Prophet?
<DM>	Beorn grins at Alamark.
<alamark>	Perhaps the guardians of Corlan could help?
*	alamark  grins back
<DM>	K: Perhaps.
*	Kasin  sigh
<Kasin>	You can stop calling me prophet ok?
<alamark>	OK
<Kasin>	too many places thic can go horribly wrong
*	Kasin  looks a little surprised at Alamark
<alamark>	Well, it's a major quest - of course, it's going to be painful and difficult
<DM>	R: But if we make a mistake, many will suffer. Not just us.
<alamark>	OOC: brb
*	Kasin  nods
*	Kasin  grimaces
<Kasin>	so, guarding this thing for over a year is not an option?
<DM>	R: It is, as long as it isn't likely to break out of the ice.
<alamark>	OOC: back
<Kasin>	provided it isn't
<DM>	K: If it does, couldn't I just encolse it in some more ice?
<Kasin>	depends on how quickly it breaks free
<DM>	R: If it doesn't break out we should be OK, although it does make a nice opportunity for our enemies.
<Kasin>	how much ice does this spell produce?
<DM>	K: I haven't tested it yet, but under water it should produce a huge area. A sphere of several hundred meter radius.
<DM>	K: Given my power, I hope that's a large several rather than a small one.
<Kasin>	solid sphere?
<DM>	K: The area becomes very cold, so that water should freeze in a solid sphere, yes.
<DM>	K: And since it'll expand the demon should be nicely squeezed.
*	Kasin  nods
<Kasin>	(how big is this demon anwyay?)
<DM>	(Huge - some of the tentacles were as wide as shotan is tall.)
<alamark>	Given it's tentacles could knock down small houses...
<Kasin>	(how big was the body?)
<DM>	(Body? Did you get to see it?)
<Kasin>	yes, underwater
<DM>	Given distortion, it would be hard to tell. Maybe 50 feet.
<DM>	(At a very rough guess.)
<DM>	(GUys, I think I'm going to have to call this other person and tell them not to come. I'm carshing too fast.)
<DM>	(Of course that means I need the phone line for a while.)
<Kasin>	(ok, so mostly tenatcle then - 8 foot tenatcles on a 50 foot body - how many tentacles?)
<Kasin>	(wwell, ok, if you need to)
<DM>	Lots. You didn't stop to count.
<DM>	(Back soon.)
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*	Kasin  waits
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<GM>	OK, I won't need to go at 10:20.
<GM>	But I probably won't play too much past that...
<Kasin>	(ok)
<alamark>	ok
<GM>	(Making plans...)
<GM>	(..continues)
<Kasin>	hmmm, ok, so dozens of tenatcles vaguely then?
<Kasin>	I think this thing may break out. maybe.
<Kasin>	depends if the ice slows it down or not
<GM>	(Yes. A few larger ones and tens or dozens of smaller ones.)
<GM>	K: If it's at all like a normal squid or octopus it shouldn't be able to No bones to provide leverage ones the tentacles are encased.
<alamark>	Beak?
<GM>	K: It could perhaps scratch with a beak. Thrusting requires room.
<alamark>	I can't believe we have to kill something by starving it to death
<Kasin>	sad isn't it?
<GM>	W: Not a nice way for anything to die.
<Kasin>	I was more thinking of sheer strength, but thats why I said maybe
<Kasin>	(to W and A) no, not a nice way at all
<Kasin>	well, I'm still in favour of trying this
<GM>	K: We could test it the dangerous way. How much stronger than Shotan could it be?
<GM>	K watches Kasin.
<Kasin>	Not a chance Kasana, not a chance
<Kasin>	I'm not very happy you even suggested it
<GM>	K: Just his legs of course. You can teleport him out if he can't move.
<GM>	K: I presume you'd be on him at the time.
<GM>	K: For that matter... turns to look at Beorn.
<GM>	(the last was an action, not said)
*	Kasin  glowers at Kasana
<alamark>	OK, that's enough children
<GM>	K: It was just a suggestion.
<Kasin>	Not a good one
*	Kasin  sighs
<GM>	K frowns but stays silent.
<alamark>	So what do we do now?
<Kasin>	Kasana, it's like asking to test how well a holy avenger works by shoving Viv up your nostils
*	alamark  smothers a guffaw
<GM>	K: I don't think so. A sword would damage me, havig his legs encased in ice shouldn't hurt Shotan.
*	Kasin  raises an eyebrow
<GM>	K: but since you're touchy on the subject why don't we drop it?
<Kasin>	fine
<Kasin>	I'm still asking about th guarding business tho - someone will need to guard it, either physically present or otherwise
<GM>	Beorn: Use magic. Too boring otherwise.
<alamark>	Hannes - other window
<Kasin>	ok, so how will the guarding go?
<GM>	Beorn: I don't know much 'bout that sort of stuff.
<GM>	Kasana: (gruffly) Well, I could set wards.
<Kasin>	right, now we are getting somewhere
<Kasin>	could your wards detect for intruders, plus breakout of the demon?
<GM>	Kasana: Certainly it should be easy to set something up to trigger if someone starts breaking ice in either direction.
<Kasin>	good
<Kasin>	less of a problem then
---	Kasin gives channel operator status to GM
<GM>	Kasana: Of course someone could try to dispel the wards, but I should be able to alarm them properly.
<GM>	Kasana: Would be tricky to do an a bunch of ice, but do-able.
*	Kasin  nods
<Kasin>	(Hannes - other window when you have a chance)
<GM>	Beorn: Why is everyone so quiet? Are we gonna get the thing or not?
*	Kasin  smiles at Beorn
<Kasin>	lost in our own little worlds Beorn
*	alamark  rolls his eyes
<Kasin>	Yes, we shall
<Kasin>	kasana, do you have to do any research prior for the wards?
<GM>	K: Wards are my speciality. I'll have to embed bits of stone in the ice to make them more stable, and I think Beorn and Bruin can help me with that.
<GM>	Bruin nods, looking at Kasana appraisingly.
*	Kasin  smiles
<Kasin>	So...we are ready then?
<GM>	Kasana: Well, it would help if I memorise the spell.
<GM>	Kasana: Maybe a few of them, for that matter.
<Kasin>	what do you mean?
<GM>	Kasana: If you want me to cast the spell I'll have to memorise it.
<Kasin>	so?
*	Kasin  nods to Renik 
<GM>	K: So I'm not ready to attack the demon at the moment. Tomorrow maybe?
<alamark>	Kasana, what do you want me to do?
<GM>	Kasana: Memorise spells like airy water, water breathing, fly, and a bunch of combat. And of course the usual teleports.
<GM>	K: And are you going to do a wish?
<Kasin>	oh, I see what you mean. I thought you meant that couldn't memorise the spell
<Kasin>	so, how about we attack in two days time then?
<GM>	K: Or do we have a ring somewhere?
<Kasin>	any objections?
<GM>	K: Two days is good.
<alamark>	If I had a week to train, I could memorise a couple more spells...
<Kasin>	(oops!)
<Kasin>	ok, after a week then
<GM>	Renik: True. Me too.
<Kasin>	I want to train myself
<GM>	K: So in a week and two days?
<alamark>	Yep
<Kasin>	ok
<Kasin>	(we train?)
*	alamark  crosses fingers
<GM>	(You train. No-one comes to annihilate you.)
<Kasin>	(excellent!)
<alamark>	Ditto
<GM>	(I'd like to do various NPC level-ups before the big event, if you guys don't mind.)
<GM>	(I think nearly everyone actually levels at this point.)
<alamark>	nod
<Kasin>	nod
*	Kasin  is surprised you actually have char sheets for the NPCs
<GM>	For most of them. In a spreadhseet that tells me things like who is ready to level, etc...
<Kasin>	cool
<Kasin>	do you work out prof's from training? :)
<GM>	Still trying to find Renik's paper sheet though so I can add him.
<GM>	I guess. It's only NPCs. And most of them don't do much training at all. :)
<Kasin>	well, I _do_ have that cgi training calculator now
<GM>	Yep. But that means I have to actually pay attention to how much they train, etc.
<Kasin>	yep
<Kasin>	anyway
<GM>	And the only one who actually trains lots is Reben.
<Kasin>	what now?
<Kasin>	he does?
<GM>	Anyway, best leave it here I think.
<GM>	Want some XP?
<Kasin>	yes please!
<Kasin>	(favour too?)
<alamark>	Yep
<alamark>	Umm, what about Az?
<GM>	Have 36k XP. Kasin can have 22 favor.
<GM>	And I'll e-mail Glenn tomorrow about Az.
<GM>	Unless you want to have a brief chat now?
<alamark>	OK
<Kasin>	ok
<Kasin>	thats fine by me
<Kasin>	not too long tho
<Kasin>	do you know the situation?
<GM>	OK, Az will ask Karen about magical weapons and whether you can tell the difference between clerical and mage ones.
---	GM is now known as Az
---	You are now known as Karrin
*	Karrin  thinks
<Karrin>	Not to my knowledge
<Karrin>	I am by no means an expert on the subject, but my understanding
<alamark>	OOC: If I knew how to change my nick, I'd do it too
<Az>	Hmm... is there a difference? I mean, do they behave differently?
<Az>	(Use "/nick <name>")
<Karrin>	is that while mage magic and clerical magic come from different sources, they are both magic
<Karrin>	they behave differently, but also the same
<Karrin>	think of a animal which grows from an egg, to one which is born live
<Karrin>	one may be somewhat different to the other, maybe it can fly.
<Karrin>	creatures born from eggs may be better at flying in general than those born live
*	Az  nods slowly.
---	alamark is now known as DM
<Karrin>	but they are both still animals
<Az>	So you're saying that the weapons are all magical but apart from that quite different?
<Karrin>	mind you, I'm still not going to trust a lion, even if it is an animal just like Tag here
<Az>	I'm confused;
<Karrin>	imagine the lion to be an evil cleric, maybe of the blood god
*	Az  nods dubiously.
<Karrin>	and imagine tag to be a cleric of a nice god, say Meiliki or Lurue
*	Az  nods again.
<Karrin>	you wouldn't trust a cleric of the blood god would you?
<Karrin>	but hopefully you think clerics of Meiliki are pretty trustworthy?
<Karrin>	but tyhey are both clerics?
<Az>	Sure.
<Az>	But you can always tell what sort a cleric is, when you know who they worship, right?
<Karrin>	no, you can't
<Az>	You can't?
<Karrin>	well, sometimes
<Karrin>	you have heard of paladins?
<Karrin>	how they can sense evil and such?
*	Az  nods.
<Karrin>	well, I can sense when a place of nature is out of balance as well - but I know nothing about evil people
<Karrin>	so, really, I have to be more careful of evil people than of tainted woodlands, because I can sense them
<Karrin>	that didn't really answer your question did it?
<Az>	No.
<Karrin>	hmmm
*	Az  looks confused.
<Az>	Basically I want to know how to tell a nice magic weapon from a bad one.
<Karrin>	I guess what I'm trying to say is, no, you can't be sure
<Karrin>	but my goddess grants me powers to remove the taint of bad weapons from people
<Karrin>	so if you find a cursed item, I can help
<Az>	Cursed?
<Karrin>	there is bad, as in evil, and cursed, as in tainted or broken
<Karrin>	I can't really help against evil magics, but I can against cursed ones
*	Az  nods.
<Karrin>	just like people, you have to weigh what you know about them up
<Az>	I see. So magic items can be evil too? And you can't help against them?
<Karrin>	thats right, and thats right
<Karrin>	they are normally more obvious - I think
<Karrin>	I've never seen one, so I'm not completely sure
<Az>	So why do people still use magic items if they risk getting evil ones? Are evil ones rare, or are people stupid?
<Karrin>	well, I can help, just not that much
<Karrin>	well, why do people talk to other people when some of them are evil?
<Karrin>	you run the risk of running into an evil person
<Az>	People are less dangerous. You can talk to them but still watch them. And if they try something you can defend yourself.
<Karrin>	I see, magic is different
*	Az  nods.
<Az>	I don't understand it. I can't tell if it's good or bad.
<Az>	But it's becoming clear that magic weapons really help sometimes.
*	Karrin  nods
<Karrin>	You understand that not all magic is bad?
<Az>	Yes. I just don't know how to tell the difference if I don't know who's using it.
<Karrin>	Az....did someone use nasty magic against you once?
<Az>	The zhents always use mages in their slaving runs. Why?
<Karrin>	just curious. you seem very wary of it
<Az>	It's just sense. Someone shoots an arrow at you and you can duck. A ball of fire is harder. Something you can't see - harder still.
*	Karrin  nods
<Karrin>	Well, thats why you have those around you trained in magic to help
<Karrin>	just liek you seem good at ducking
*	Az  grins.
<Karrin>	although I'd prefer it if you warned me before ducking when I'm behind you
*	Karrin  grins
<Az>	I am a bit hasty sometimes. I have spent too long with you humans.
<Az>	I will try to warn you next time.
<Karrin>	You are plenty hasty enough for me
<Karrin>	so, any other questions? can I brow beat you (cough) I eman enlighten you on the wonders of Meilikki?
<DM>	:)
<Az>	Why would you want to do that? I respect your god.
*	Karrin  shrugs
<Karrin>	It's traditional
*	Karrin  is smiling
<Az>	Is it? I'm sorry, I'm still learning. Go ahead then.
<Karrin>	It was mostly a joke Az
<Az>	Oh ... I see. So it's not traditional?
<Karrin>	you know, how clerics are expected to blather on about their deity at any possible moment?
<Az>	No.
<Karrin>	oh, well they do. I was joking
<Az>	My people live our gods. We don't talk about them so much.
<Karrin>	I know you respect my deity, and I appreciate that
*	Az  nods.
<Karrin>	the idea by the cleric is to get the other person to respect and follow their deity by convincing them
<Karrin>	I don;t need to do that, you follow Meilikki in deed if not in word
*	Az  looks at Karrin curiously.
<Az>	I suppose. But Meilikki is a human deity. I wouldn't ask you to worship my deity.
<Karrin>	Not only humans follow Meilikki
*	Karrin  chuckles
<Az>	Still.
<Karrin>	not even all of her followers have two legs, some have no legs at all
<Az>	She is also goddess of cripples?
*	Karrin  laughs
*	Az  looks puzzled.
<Karrin>	no, I meant creatures like unicorns, treants and the like
*	Karrin  is grinning
<Az>	Treants follow Meilikki?
<Karrin>	yes
<Karrin>	I met one on the way to the last feast of high summer
<Az>	Treants are very wise. Meilikki must be important then.
<Karrin>	(seriously) she is
<Az>	I mean to more than humans.
<Karrin>	thats what I meant to
<Karrin>	(too)
*	Az  nods seriously.
<Az>	Well, thank you for your advice.
<Karrin>	you are welcome, I hoipe it has helped
<Az>	It has, yes.
<Karrin>	Good
<Karrin>	anytime Az, anytime.
<Az>	(So much so that Az will consider magical weapons when they become available.)
<Az>	(Which you guys will have to discuss at the next session, I guess.)
<Karrin>	(player goes drat :)
<Az>	:)
<Karrin>	(ummm, decision now would be good....Sophie?)
<DM>	hold on a tic
---	Az is now known as Hannes
<Karrin>	(Sophie told you whats on offer?)
<Hannes>	Yep
<Hannes>	Basically, if you hadn't have swapped the shortsword away, Az would ask for that.
<Hannes>	He's not that interested in the bow.
<DM>	Ah, but you don't know the bow is on offer by that stage
<Hannes>	True.
<DM>	OOC: Pins andf needles in my left hand dammit
<Karrin>	(true. noooo!!!! party losing the bow!!!)
<Hannes>	it depends whether you want to go retrospective or not.
<Karrin>	(kasin is _very_ interested in the bow)
<Hannes>	If not, and the sword is swapped then Az will be happy for karrin to have the bow.
<Hannes>	He'd be more interested in magical arrows.
<Karrin>	(oops, Kasin couldn't gave a rats, _Karrrin_ is very interested)
<Hannes>	(So interested she's gained an 'r'?)
<Hannes>	:)
<Karrin>	rrrrr, me hearties!
<Hannes>	Anyway, have a chat about it at the start of the next session. I'm not real fussed either way.
<DM>	OK
<Karrin>	well, and the decision is....
<Karrin>	delayed. sigh
<DM>	Char sheets for Az?
<Hannes>	(I believe the DM is OK with it, but waiting to see what the players say.)
<Hannes>	I have to type them in.
<DM>	OK
<Hannes>	I might just scan the ones I have and send the images for now.
<Hannes>	WOuld that help?
<Hannes>	Or should I e-mail you basic things like HPs, attacks, etc...?
<Hannes>	Anyway, let me know what you'd prefer. I really need sleep.
<Karrin>	sleeepppp
<Hannes>	(The Elf needs sleep, badly.)
*	Hannes  waves.
<Karrin>	Hannes, your sleep-force is running out
<Hannes>	Bye all...
*	Hannes  inserts more coins.
<Karrin>	"quick, insert another bunch of coffees!"
*	Karrin  waves madly
<--	Hannes has quit (Leaving)
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