Session Start: Tue Oct 10 18:39:00 2000 [18:39] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [18:39] I am the channel creator - MWAHAHAHA!!! :) [18:39] :) [18:39] *** DM sets mode: +o kasin [18:39] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Alamark has Meglomania" Channel' [18:40] 1 am th3 133t chann3l cr3at0r - MWAHAHAHA!!! :) [18:40] next, on Oprah. [18:40] Is that a curse, Glenn? [18:40] BTW, I've been reading the D20 rules on the web... [18:41] the question is, is it true seeing or it's reverse, false vision? [18:41] yep [18:41] ...and there are lots of bits I don't really like. [18:41] ? [18:41] oh? [18:41] Just things that I don't know how they'll turn out. Alot of the changes with mages and clerics, for example. Saves for one. [18:41] I'd definitely want to see it in play before making my mind up about it. [18:42] I'm not sure about saves either - that really requires testing [18:42] A pox on the parents of the founders of WotC [18:42] what else? [18:43] Hmm... monks. All of Monks, for that matter. Barbarians to some degree. [18:43] Monks seem very powerful [18:43] I've only just started the combat rules... so can't comment on them yet. [18:43] Barbarians don't, they seem about right [18:43] A pox on the founders of WotC [18:44] just readin the character descriptions should tell you that [18:44] *** Disconnected Session Close: Tue Oct 10 18:44:09 2000 Session Start: Tue Oct 10 18:44:25 2000 [18:44] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [18:44] *** Topic is 'The "Alamark has Meglomania" Channel' [18:44] *** Set by DM on Tue Oct 10 18:39:47 [18:44] *** DM sets mode: +o kasin [18:44] closed wrong window :) [18:44] Has Norse converted yet? [18:45] nope, soonish [18:45] requires some testing first of course [18:45] OK. I'll keep my former position of "vote against but won't rabidly object". [18:45] * kasin nods [18:45] A pox on the TSR shareholders who drove the company to be bought out WotC [18:45] *** DM sets mode: +s [18:45] why do you not like monks and barbs? [18:46] They don't feel right. [18:46] I'll keep my former position of rabidly objecting [18:46] why not? [18:46] Hang on, I thought you weren't rabidly objecting???? I even commented on how surprised I was that you weren't rabidly objecting! [18:46] I said "feel" Glenn. Don't give me this "reason" stuff! :) [18:47] :) [18:47] I've glanced through the descriptions once - I'm going by feel alone. [18:47] ok. just wondered what felt wrong [18:47] If Sophie rabidly objects then I'll rabidly object to changing while someone is rabidly objecting! :) [18:47] (Not that I'd be rabid about being rabid, well, not rabidly so anyway.) [18:49] A pox on the anti-T$R consumers who tried to screw over TSR [18:50] A pox on not starting! Shall we start? [18:50] yep [18:50] N had removed the barriers, A and K had gone exploring [18:50] Yep. [18:50] M had talked with priests [18:50] N is gone [18:51] M was doing divs [18:51] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Hunt the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [18:52] Alamark had turned up virtually nothing of use [18:52] Kaisn has turned up a cursed man [18:53] and it appears the marids are nasty people [18:53] (BTW, I'm at work. So I'll have to leave vaguely early - so I can get a cab - and don't have manuals.) [18:53] * kasin nods [18:54] well, what are we going to do? [18:54] rescue this poor man from his curse anyway [18:54] plus get these people here on the right track [18:54] M was doing divs about... ? [18:55] ? [18:55] no idea [18:55] That's right their little jihad/crusade [18:56] You said that she was doing divs and I don't recall what about. [18:56] neither do i [18:56] OK [18:57] So when are you guys heading off to rescue the cursed guy? [18:57] the first opne was about the location of the marids, although kasin is particularly interested now [18:57] also, kasin had used a heal from the lunch knife on M, and it hurt her [18:58] * DM nods. [18:59] It did? [18:59] yep [19:01] so...we are going to help this guy?> [19:01] how can we do that? We could go and see him and see if we can now remove the curse [19:01] Agreed [19:01] or, we could go to where it appears there is a marid trapped in a bottle and get her to remove the curse [19:01] I say the first, at least for starters [19:01] M: Either try a Remove Curse of talk to the thing that cursed him. [19:02] M nods. [19:03] I tried a remove curse, but it didn't work [19:03] not that I am the most powerful of spellcasters [19:03] M: Hmm... I'm not as powerful as the other priests. Alamark, do you get Remove Curse? [19:03] Yes [19:04] we could go there tomorrow or laster today then, unless you have a free [19:04] M: That's probably our best bet then. [19:06] tomorrow? we can talk to people here today [19:06] M nods. [19:06] M, you are probably going to want to do divs anwyay [19:06] M smiles. [19:07] M: I'll do some tonight, and some more tomorrow. [19:07] (OK, you rest?) [19:08] yep [19:08] ok [19:08] K wants to talk to priests tho [19:08] OK. [19:09] And? [19:09] do you want to RP it out? [19:09] she is going to talk to them about their jihad :) [19:10] Oh ... they will nod and wonder why you keep changing your mind. :) [19:10] well, she is going to have to mention that as well [19:11] plus things like that se isn't going to be here for ever [19:11] (she) [19:12] Ok. The problem is that they can't tell the difference between you and the other you. [19:12] thats why she is trying to give them the tools to make their own decisions [19:13] OK.. you can make a start on that. Not much more than that. [19:13] nope *sigh* [19:14] then we rest [19:14] OK... results of the two lots of divs. [19:14] yep [19:14] yep? [19:15] Can we have the dice-roller please? Need d100 to think. :) [19:16] OK... [19:16] There are a few general spells still in effect. They were not broken since they're not wards. [19:16] No result on what they are though. [19:17] Divs should now work normally, conjurations may not. [19:17] ok [19:17] what about healing? [19:18] The cursed guy is properly cursed. Luinja could possibly remove it, but no-one of you three can. [19:18] (Healing was a "no result"). [19:18] doh [19:19] The blue witch thing (not confirmed as a Marid ... ) can choose to undo the curse. Alamark's RC will work if she is dead. [19:19] ok [19:20] Oh, and all of the energy drifting around from the torn wards may make some spells have odd effects on occasion ... for about the next month or so, local time. [19:20] SOmething to do with the chaotic powers of the being that broke them. [19:21] And that's it. [19:21] chaotic power? thats interesting [19:21] M nods. [19:22] I thought [19:22] I broke it [19:22] anything more about that? [19:22] M: No. [19:23] ok, well we can go looking for the blue witch and see about this more tomorrow [19:23] M: I don't think I'll come looking for the witch. I've got lots of talking to do here and wouldn't be much help in combat anyway. [19:23] M: I'll talk, rest, and do divs. [19:24] ok then, A, S, V and I will go looking for the blue witch. Any idea on a lcoation? [19:25] M: Oh yes ... that was the first thing I actually did do. [19:25] M will pull out a map and circle an up-river area. [19:25] M: Somewhere along here. There should be a lake of some sort, not too large. [19:25] * kasin nods [19:26] M: Given that the thing may be a Marid you might have to chase it underwater, so you'd better be prepared for that. [19:26] How long to sail vs. fly there? [19:26] (Shotan would be by far the quickest way.) [19:27] * kasin nods [19:27] OK... so you head out via Shotan? [19:28] yep [19:28] I can't go underwater, unless A can memorise some water breathing spells? [19:29] yep [19:31] sure [19:31] ok [19:31] (Sophie, want to change spell memorisation? If needed?) [19:33] (And let me know when you're done?) [19:33] * kasin waits [19:35] Glenn, any idea when Simon is going to do the diary of the big battle? It's been 1.5 weeks! [19:35] he is working on it now [19:35] he has done the first bit of the battle [19:36] Good. [19:36] he is changing the format somewhat [19:37] Well, tell him I finished gnawing my fingernails and am down to the second knuckle, so he'd better hurry up while I can still type! [19:38] heh, I'll let him knoiw [19:38] :) [19:44] OOC: Is there any restrictions on what spells we can memorise? [19:44] Nope. Just some might not work. [20:04] how are you going there Sophie? [20:09] *** Disconnected Session Close: Tue Oct 10 20:09:14 2000 Session Start: Tue Oct 10 20:13:50 2000 [20:13] *** Now talking in #rpg2 [20:13] *** Topic is 'The "Hunt the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [20:13] *** Set by DM on Tue Oct 10 18:51:28 [20:13] ready? [20:13] OK... [20:13] *** DM sets mode: +o kasin [20:14] Let's rock! [20:14] we fly off [20:15] (yes?) [20:15] OK ... is Alamark going to be full-sized and human? SHotan can carry two, but it's not as comfortable. [20:16] * kasin sighs [20:17] (Sophie?) [20:17] should I go back to my game? [20:18] Yes, A will be full-sized [20:18] OK... you head off. [20:19] (clop-clop, clop-clop (ok, no clops)) [20:19] It will take a few hours to get to the river - you will interect it away from the coast but some distance from the circled area ... just in case. [20:20] The river is fairly large and sluggish, and currently runs through a wide gorge. [20:21] You head upstream and after a while come to a place where part of the gorge has collapsed, daming some of the river and forming a ramp down to it... [20:21] ...this sounds vaguely like what the guy described. The pooled water down below isn't huge, but it looks deep. [20:21] hmmm [20:21] looks can be deceiving [20:22] * kasin nods [20:22] lets have a look at the water [20:22] go down to ground level, and ride up to the water [20:22] Umm... you go down the ramp? [20:23] sure. not touching the ground :( [20:23] ops, :) [20:23] OK. [20:23] A can get off when we get close, or not, as he chooses [20:23] Shotan circles downwards to the top of the ramp, and then rides "down" the ramp, stopping by the edge of the pool. [20:24] The water is calm and very dark blue. [20:24] Not far from you a small waterfall drops from the dammed area onto the rive below. [20:24] (damned? :) [20:24] :) [20:25] * kasin detects evil [20:26] there [20:26] * kasin points to the center of the pool [20:26] As Kasin point, the water ripples and a figure rises up. [20:27] A blue-skinned female rises partially out of the water, about to her waist. [20:27] She's very beautiful (of course) and is actually wearing loose clothing. [20:28] Smurfette: Travellers? I don't often have guests. [20:28] good morning (hand on sword) [20:29] Sf: Indeed warrior-woman. And to you also (the latter to Alamark). [20:29] * alamark nods [20:29] Sf: I don't know what god lead you here, but perhaps you would be willing to help me? [20:29] we have come about a man who you cursed [20:30] Sf (raising an eyebrow) Oh? [20:30] Yes. By the name of Gert. [20:31] (I call apon the power of Gert!) [20:31] Sf: Gert? Well, you have come a little late. I'm afraid he'll be long gone by now. [20:31] Long gone? [20:32] Sf: Yes, I sent him to Nk'Shayla. An island where gifts for my people are left. My people will have taken him decades since. [20:32] He is still there, very much alive. [20:33] Sf: (laughs) Of course. In that case what may I do for you? [20:33] We want to remove the curse [20:33] Sf: Gladly. But only if you help me. [20:33] By freeing you? [20:33] Sf: Yes. [20:34] Sf: I'll give you the traditional three wishes. You can use one to have me uncurse Gert. [20:34] and the others? [20:35] Are you a marid? [20:35] Sf: You may do with what you wish, if you'll pardon the pun. I very much look forward to seeing my people again, so I'll be kind with them to save time. [20:35] Sf (to A) Some call my people that, yes. [20:36] (quietly) She is evil, I'd rather not let her go if at all possible [20:36] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Free the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [20:37] Viv: (quietly) We can always 'release' her in our own special way. [20:37] (that was in Let too) [20:38] (quietly) Alamark? [20:39] (L): What do you mean by release? From the chains of mortality? [20:39] Viv (L, q) Yep. [20:40] (L for Letnorian, q for quietly) [20:41] * kasin waits..... [20:42] Why did you curse Gert? [20:42] Sf: (shrugs daintily) He was quite rude. [20:42] rude? how so? [20:42] Oh? [20:43] Sf: Well, first he refused to help me and then he even refused to play. Very unfriendly. [20:43] Sf: Didn't even ask permission to water his horse. [20:43] play? [20:43] Sf: Yes, play. I'm bored. VERY bored. [20:43] Sf frowns. [20:45] I'm sorry, I don't think we are going to play either [20:45] Sf: That's OK. If you free me I can go home to my people. That's much better than playing. [20:45] Who put you here? [20:45] Sf: My former master, an ungrateful wretch. [20:46] ungrateful? [20:46] Sf: Yes. After all I did for him he cast my vessel into the desert. A terrible man. [20:46] why did he do that? [20:46] did you distort the wishes a little too much? [20:47] Sf: Wishes? Oh no. I just helped him too much. He must have gotten bored or something. [20:47] what was his name? [20:48] Sf: Name? Hmm... I called him '(uses a word that in the local tongue is the jumping-rat)'. I can't actually remember his name. [20:48] Ok [20:49] (quietly) well? [20:50] Was it Abi-Dalzim? [20:50] Sf: Abi-Dalzim? Hmm... nope, doesn't ring a bell. [20:50] How long ago was this? [20:51] Sf: Oh, far too long. Decades ... centuries? Who knows? [20:52] what needs to be done to free you? [20:52] Sf: You need to retrieve my lamp and hand it to me. [20:52] it is at the bottom of the water? [20:53] Sf: Yes. I can't touch it without permission. [20:53] Do you know that Gert can't swim? [20:53] How can he retrieve the lamp is he can't swim? [20:53] Sf: Can't swim? Whyever not? How very silly! [20:54] Not all humans can swim [20:54] Don't you think it's a little unfair to curse someone for so long for not being able to swim? [20:54] Sf: Oh yes, but you really should learn. Besides, I could have helped him. [20:55] Did you ask? [20:55] Sf: Well, no. But I DID tell him that I can carry him AND allow him to breathe down there. [20:55] Sf (looking peeved) He wouldn't even consider it. [20:56] Why not? [20:57] Sf: Because he was rude, that's why! [20:57] Humans who can't swim are generally afraid of water... [20:57] Sf: Afraid of water? Now that is just too weird. [20:57] if you were taken up high, wouldn't you be afraid of falling? [20:58] Sf: No? Should I be? [20:58] why wouldn't you? [20:58] Sf: Why should I be? If I fall I just catch myself. Is there a problem? [20:59] catch yourself with magic, because you know how [20:59] what if you didn't? [20:59] Sf: Well ... then I wouldn't like it. Falling could hurt. [20:59] badly. even kill you. splat. dead. [21:00] you see why he might not want to go in the water? [21:00] Sf: Hmph. He had nothing to worry about. [21:00] he didn't know that [21:01] Sf: I TOLD him! [21:01] Sf is starting to look peeved. [21:01] He didn't believe you? [21:01] Sf: Obviously not. He said it 'didn't matter'! [21:01] didn't matter? [21:01] why did he say it didn't matter? [21:01] Sf: Because he's RUDE. [21:02] well, sounds like he wasn't being very nice [21:02] Sf: Definitely not. That's why I sent him to me people. [21:02] who were going to do what exactly? [21:03] Sf: Oh, probably keep him as a servant or some such. They'd remove the blindness and the boundary curse of course. [21:03] I see [21:03] (quietly) Alamark, well? [21:04] Sf: It's only fair. You humans always take great pleasure in enslaving us? [21:04] Hardly [21:04] That will change [21:04] Sf chuckles. [21:04] Sf: When I swim in the fire, warrior. Not before. [21:04] It will, if I have anything to say about it [21:05] Sf: Really? How to you plan to do anything about it? It's been that way since we first met other peoples. I remember it well. [21:05] They can be taught better [21:05] Sf: Good luck. [21:05] enslaving - by anyone, is wrong [21:06] Was there a single human who did much to enslave your race [21:06] Sf: No. Not even just humans, all other peoples do it. Mages, hmph! [21:07] We have worked at freeing enslavement of your people [21:07] Sf: My people? They aren't enslaved. Well, maybe a few of them. [21:07] however, it has to work both ways [21:08] Sf: Look, you humans make bad servants. We'd be happy to stop the practice. But while the current state of affairs exists ... [21:08] Sf shrugs. [21:08] which state of affairs is that? [21:09] Sf: Us being enslaved by any mage with a free lamp or ring, that's what! [21:09] * kasin shrugs [21:09] I'm sorry, but I can't change the laws of magic [21:09] Sf: Exactly my point! [21:10] Nor can you prevent the enslavement of humans by your kind by changing the laws of magic [21:11] Sf: Whatever. The situtation isn't going to change. My personal situation can though. [21:11] The situation can change, in the region [21:11] Sf: For a while maybe. A hundred years or two at most. [21:12] The situation can be setup so it is self correcting [21:12] Sf: If you say so, but excuse me if I don't believe it. I've heard it before often enough. [21:13] * kasin sighs [21:13] (quietly) Alamark, we need to make a decision [21:13] You know, I don't believe we know your name... [21:14] Sf: Oh, I'm Syifa. And you? [21:14] Queen Kasin [21:14] (grins) Paladin of morn [21:15] Sf: Oh? Nice to meet you, your majesty. (She'll give a slightly bow.) [21:15] (I guess the last would be in Letnorian, given the lack of appropriate words in the local tongue) [21:15] (OK) [21:16] Sf looks at A... [21:16] I am Alamark [21:17] Sf nods. [21:17] Syifa... [21:17] I'm not sure how to say this, but... [21:17] By Morn's standards, you are... [21:18] Sf: Yes? [21:18] (looks curious) [21:18] Sf: Pretty? [21:18] * kasin coughs [21:19] ...evil [21:19] Sf: Oh, is that all? Well, my people consider humans evil. *shrugs* [21:20] why is that? [21:20] Sf: Why? Your mages enslave us for millenia and you ask why? [21:21] No, I mean, Morn considers _you_ individually, to be evil. [21:22] Sf: Oh, really? Do I know this Morn person? Did he send you to attack me? [21:22] * kasin nods [21:22] Besides, most of those human mages are evil too [21:22] Sf nods. [21:23] nothing personal, you understand [21:24] Sf: Oh, I'm used to it, don't worry. I hope you don't mind joining Gert then. [21:24] Sf shrugs. [21:24] * kasin draws Viv, but doesn't otherwise move [21:24] Sf: I'd prefer to be freed, but at least your attempt to kill me might entertain me for a while. [21:24] We have come to this plane with the intention of freeing your people. [21:24] Sf: Freeing us? Well, why don't you start with me then? [21:24] We do not wish to fight you or anyone else [21:25] Actually, we came with another intension, but freeing your people was a bonus [21:25] However, our conscience makes us hesitate in the matter of freeing you in particular. [21:25] well said, Alamark [21:26] * kasin rests Viv across her knees [21:28] Sf: You'll find that my people are like me. Most of us really don't like humans much at all. Not like those patheic Djinn. [21:28] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Kill the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [21:28] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Kill the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [21:28] *** DM changes topic to 'The "Kill the Smurfette Witch" Channel' [21:28] (Oops .. excuse spam.) [21:28] That is why we hesitate [21:29] We believe, that as far as possible, to live in harmony with all things. [21:29] That all sentient beings, as far as possible, deserve to live and be free [21:29] Sf: My belief exactly. Live free and let live free. [21:29] and be nice [21:29] which is the ticking point here mainly [21:29] Sf: (shrugs) We learnt not to be nice to humans. It doesn't pay, in the long run. [21:30] Why should we be nice to you then? [21:30] which is why they aren't nice to you [21:30] Sf: I'm not asking you to be nice to me. I'm suggesting you do me a service and I'll repay you with wishes. [21:31] Sf: Quite a fair deal, don't you think? [21:31] We are more concerned with you, and your people, being nice to everyone. With everyone being nice to you, too. [21:32] Sf: We'd just like to be left alone. If we're left alone then I'm more than happy to be nice to all the humans I don't meet. [21:32] Will your people leave the humans alone, if they leave you alone? [21:33] Sf: That's what we've always wanted. Humans can even take their ships through our seas if they leave tokens for us at the right places. They know that. [21:33] Sounds fair. [21:34] Sf: Of course. We believe in freedom, and have no interest in humans at all. [21:34] (quietly) perhaps we should leave her alone, as a show of good faith) [21:34] Sf: Unless they humans come to us, or enspell us of course. [21:34] Viv (L, q) Assuming she's telling the truth. [21:34] how do we know you or your people are going to stick to this? Your kind are notouriously fickle [21:35] Sf: Fickle? Not like you humans. Make a bargain one century and you change your minds the next! [21:36] different humans [21:36] Sf: Well, yes. That's part of the problem I suppose. [21:37] rtue, true. [21:37] Sf: Look, what interest would we have in humans? You don't live in the water, for a start. And you don't have anything that we want. [21:37] you do want them [21:37] Sf: Want them? What them? [21:38] You enslave them [21:38] Sf: Only if we happen across them ... generally if they come into our domain without leave or manners. [21:39] perhaps you could nicely ask them to leave. [21:40] Sf: Why? [21:40] if they refuse, you can use sterner measuers [21:40] so they will leave [21:41] else humans might get the opinion that you are a nasty race, and feel like they can do nasty things back [21:41] Sf: If they're rude then they deserve whatever is coming to them. And if they're not rude then we talk. [21:42] Sometimes rudeness comes from simple misunderstandings [21:42] * kasin nods [21:42] Enslaving someone for simple rudeness is evil in my book. [21:43] * kasin nods [21:43] So is cursing them [21:43] Sf: Well, then we're all evil by your standards. (she shrugs) [21:43] (sadly) you probably all are [21:44] Sf: So does this mean that you're not going to free me? [21:45] _If_ we can come to a suitable agreement, _if_ we think you and your people are going to stick to it, then we will free you [21:45] Sf: Ah, a bargain. So what is it you want? [21:45] you leave the humans alone. No enslaving. [21:46] In return, they will leave you alone. [21:46] Enslavment would be illegal under both races sets of laws. Well, such laws that exist. [21:47] Sf: (chuckles) And how long would these laws last? [21:47] * kasin sighs [21:47] we would endevour to ensure the laws last as long as possible [21:48] on both sides [21:48] nothing mortal is eternal, but we can try [21:48] Sf: Well, I can try to talk to my people. If you've got a good way on ensuring a few centuries of peace they might go for it. [21:49] we can try [21:49] They should listen [21:49] what do you think Alamark? [21:49] Sf: I can't promise that they will, but I can do my best to persuade them. [21:51] As will we [21:51] * kasin nods [21:51] Sf: So you'll get my lamp now? [21:52] Firstly we want to make sure that you are going to stick to this [21:52] Sf: How are you going to do that? Well, you could make it one of your wishes I suppose. [21:52] * kasin nods [21:53] shallw e begin wording? [21:54] Sf: You'll get your wishes when you free me. That's the rules. I can't give you wishes at the moment. [21:54] but we can decide on wording of the wishes before we free you [21:55] Sf: (sigh) If you like. I just want to get home again, and screwing you over isn't going to help me with that. [21:56] Hold on [21:56] How about swearing on your true name? [21:56] *** alamark has quit IRC (Snak 4.1 - http://www.snak.com) [21:56] * DM sighs. [21:56] (clicked on the wrong close window button :) [21:57] (just like I did earlier) [21:57] *** alamark has joined #rpg2 [21:57] *** DM sets mode: +o alamark [21:57] Whoops! [21:57] :) [21:57] Meant to just quit dicerolls [21:57] (anyway, what does she say?) [21:58] Sf: True name? I don't think so. [21:58] Sf: If you free me I give you the wishes, them's the rules. I can't break them anyway, so leave my name out of this. [21:59] That is not what he is referring to. [21:59] You know what a true name is? [21:59] Sf: Of course. [22:00] How about swearing on that you hold most holy? [22:00] Sf: What, my freedom? That's about the idea of the whole thing, isn't it? [22:01] The problem is not the rules of the wishes, it's you stciking to this agreement and talking with your kind about it [22:01] Sf: If you wish me to do that then I have to. Besides, it's in our interest as well. [22:01] Sf: We just want to be left in peace. That's all. [22:04] Very well. We need to word this appropriately. [22:04] Plus the other wishes. [22:04] Sf (sighs) You guys are from Law, right? [22:05] no. good. [22:05] You know what a paladin is? [22:05] Sf: Yeah, I've come across them before. Generally polite at least. [22:06] good. [22:06] If you will pardon the pun. [22:06] (AFK for a while - calling to order a taxi for later) [22:06] (ok) [22:08] (Ok, we have 30mins) [22:10] (ok) [22:10] What shall we use the last wish for... [22:10] Viv: Hmm... what were we going to use the second one for? [22:10] the cursed people, and to ensure she keeps her word [22:11] perhasp we could use it to setup markers between the two lands [22:11] Viv: Ah yes. Of course. [22:12] Shotan: Markers? [22:13] An excellent idea. [22:13] some kind of warning markers perhaps. To let people know what territory they are entering [22:14] Sf: An original idea. [22:14] verbal, visual. language drift might be a problem, so perhaps telepathic. [22:15] sounds good to all. A neat solution I would think, although border drift could be a problem. [22:16] Your people don't really want to change their borders towards shore much I would think? [22:16] Sf: No, no need. We have plenty of space. [22:16] Sf: We swim outside of our lands of course, but we don't bother humans there. Avoiding them is much easier. [22:17] Ok, great. A solution which pleases everyone. [22:17] agreed [22:17] Now, we still need to do the finer details, sicen I'm sure others will want things which we haven't mentioned, but this should make everyone happy [22:18] releasing of those emprisioned, on both sides, should be part of this [22:18] uncursing everyone too [22:18] Sf: It sounds surprisingly fair. Probably the Paladin thing. [22:19] Sf: Well, if you release all of my people that are captured we'd be sure to release everyone, uncurse anyone you want _and_ throw in a few wishes. I can't see it happening though. [22:19] well, I can't release everyone, everywhere. We are talking about an agreement for the local region, but everywhere on all planes. [22:20] well, we do have a problem with a demon which we could do with some help [22:20] Sf: Demon? Hmm... they can be annoying. [22:20] yes, this one is. [22:20] immortal, so it's a nasty one. [22:21] Sf: Well, we can provide wishes to help. [22:21] (we word the wishes?) [22:21] yep [22:22] (kasin wants Sf to uncurse all that she has cursed. As much as she can get out of the wish) [22:23] Sf: I haven't actually cursed any humans since Gert, so none that are likely to be alive. She cursed a fox about a decade ago? Did you want to include that? [22:23] ummm, I don't know how long foxes live for. Yeah, if she can. [22:24] Sf shrugs but agrees. [22:24] You cursed a fox? [22:24] What for? [22:25] Sf: It was quite rude. Insulting too. And I was only trying to make conversation. [22:26] * kasin shrugs [22:26] I'm sure it has paid enough by now [22:27] Sf: (shrugs) It's probably dead, but if not ... yeah, I'll uncurse it. [22:28] (ok. we do it?) [22:28] How can a fox be rude to you? [22:28] (yes) [22:28] (word it appropriately of course, but I don't really want to sit down and do that) [22:28] Sf: Just like anyone can. Horrible thing it was. [22:28] (So who goes down for the lamp?) [22:29] I'll go. If A casts WB. [22:29] Or A can go, if he wants. [22:29] S for that matter. [22:29] (You'll need a fly spell too, unless you want to take your armor off.) [22:30] I can provide both [22:30] armour off anyway - yucky and wet. armour prob won't help if anything happens [22:31] get changed behind a rock into vest and hose [22:33] take Viv and lunch knife, swim/fly down and get it preumably? [22:33] OK ... Kasin gets WB and Fly from Alamark, and descends into the wild blue yon... umm ... the pool. [22:33] (Nope, not that straight-forward.) [22:33] Franly, I think we'd better leave it here since this bit could take a while and my taxi arrives in less than half an hour. :( [22:34] (drat!) [22:34] well, ok [22:34] While she's doing that [22:34] How the smeg did she talk to a fox? [22:35] (You can ask her while she's changing.) [22:35] Sf: Just like I talk to you. It's language is just a little simpler. [22:35] Really? [22:35] Sf: Of course. [22:36] I wouldn't think they'd have enough of a vocabulary to be rude [22:36] Sf: You'd be surprised. The way it flicked it's tail was totally insolent. [22:37] You're not serious?! [22:38] Sf: Of course. They use body language more than sounds. [22:38] Perhaps it just felt threatened [22:38] Sf: Not the way it was going. Hmph. [22:38] So what did you do to it? [22:40] Sf: Oh, made it a vegetarian. (she grins) Needed some powerful magic so it could actually digest the stuff, but it was worth it. [22:40] What?! [22:40] That's... cruel. [22:41] Sf: Cruel? Not really. He'll just get avoided by his friends. [22:43] Sf: Cruel would have been not changing his digestion. This way he doesn't kill things anymore and hates to taste meat. [22:43] But it's natural for them to... oh, nevermind. [22:45] Anyway, Kasin will have finished changing and head into the water... [22:45] ..and we'll leave it here. [22:45] Have 16k Xp ... no favor. [22:45] (sheesh, just discovered a thread about my sig) [22:45] Oh? [22:46] (yeah. the latin one) [22:46] (just reading news while this bit was going on) [22:46] Oops... got 10 mins to be downstairs ... and make sure the gate is open. [22:46] Chat with you two later. [22:46] * kasin wave [22:47] * DM waves. [22:47] *** DM has quit IRC ([x]chat) [22:47] *** alamark has quit IRC (Snak 4.1 - http://www.snak.com) [22:47] *** Disconnected Session Close: Tue Oct 10 22:47:57 2000